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Kara/Anders, obssessions, and random rambliness

David Kemper is God. (I'm just sayin')

I have slept, this is good.

I'm still... pissed isn't exactly the right word. Frustrated, possibly? BSG seems to go for the stupidest cliche moments, as well as the pointless Warrior Woman Angst (tm Aeryn Sun, most recently). ...I'm sorry, I'm having to approach this in a roundabout way.

So. Sam and Kara.

The essence of the scene in Collaborators is that Kara needs space, and Sam is afraid she'll hurt him more, so he's stopping it before it starts. Considering she basically said she would hurt him, that's very self-preserving of him.

And the scene works for me--up until Sam basically says, "this is the end."

I was fine with them splitting, I was fine with her telling him, "Go away before I hurt you." I was even fine with him giving her the dog tag. I just wasn't fine with the words he said (and on my first viewing, I didn't hear what he said and was actually happy about the scene).

So, um, yes. You'll have to excuse me as I sulk a little about them being more over than I'd thought.

Because I doubt Kara is ever going to go, "Gosh I need him" and chase after him. Kara doesn't do shit like that. And Sam is not going to be her punching bag.

Actually, that part is good.

Hell, the part where they're both coming at this from very different places is excellent.

I suppose it could have been worse. There could'a been a coin toss.

The crunchy angst this will provide will be marvellous, I suppose. That's why I was writing it in fic, after all. (ok, so I was really writing it in fic so that they couldn't write it in the show, and, damn, I hate thinking like Ron Moore and Co.)

I predict we will now get lots of self-destructive behavior on Kara's part. And Sam will probably go be angsty until redheaded Jean Brightman smacks him upside the head and tells him to grow the frak up. Someday, I might get angsty porn. (I want it now, damnit)

And I refuse to write the version of the scene where Sam says, "Fine. Then hurt me." and they get into a really screwed-up relationship.

I am, however, going to finish John Crichton and the Boys Instruct Sam on Dealing with a Warrior Woman and her Angst.

If only for the line, "Shut up, Ronon. We only let you in because you bring beer."

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I could be wrong (yes, yes, it's true), but I took Sam's "this is the end" as more of something to say to shock Kara into looking at what's happening. He didn't look like a man who's over it, to me. Or maybe he even thinks he is, but that's only the rational part of him and the irrational, in love part of his is just saying, "Yeah, Samuel, whatever helps you sleep at night."

They are so not over.

DAMMIT! I keep forgetting to save that Kara/Sam kiss icon you did from Ex. 2! *headdesk*

Okay, yes, that, too.

I hold out in hope that Helo will smack some sense into Sam and then smack Kara, too. And Sharon will be all, "You two were at my wedding, wtf is your problem?"

...Yes, I do like my fanon. Yup.

Er. Do I still have it up? I can stick it up again. *checks*

er, gimme a minute, it got deleted during the last run-through.

*beats livejournal with a stick*

I have to steal you icon... please look away from the screen now

heh

I am still trying to work thru my feelings over this ep. But my concern about Sam is that they will write him off the show at this point. Like he was only around as a character prop for Kara and now that she is all PTSD on his ass, time to chuck the character.

If they were smart, they would keep him as a reoccurring character and perhaps get him involved on the Galactica in some ways. Perhaps as a Marine or with the President as an advisor. The guy has definate leadership qualities and to let those go to waste, especially after all he has done for the human race since the holocaust.

:: sits back and pets Sam lovingly ::

From my understanding, he's still going to be around--as it's an ensemble show, he won't be the main focus or anything for a while. But I've seen caps from, uh, episode ten? And he's running around in military gear. Sleeveless, iirc.

So, there is hope.

....*eyes your icon, restrains urge to hiss*

But I've seen caps from, uh, episode ten? And he's running around in military gear. Sleeveless, iirc.

YAY!!! This has made my whole day! I, like the poster above, was convinced this was BSG saying, "Thanks, Sam, but don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out!" So to hear he's still around for a few more episodes at least - yay!!!

Still bummed about the split from Kara, but I'm looking forward to more yummy moments with Sam.

Apparently, there's stuff in the podcast. But as you'd have to pay me to listen...

Sam just... needs to wander around in the background a lot. Shirtless would be nice.

Apparently, there's stuff in the podcast. But as you'd have to pay me to listen...

Me too. I tried once way back in season one, and I didn't have the attention span and/or am not as big of a BSG fan to listen to that drivel. I have had no desire to listen since.

Mmmm...shirtless...

Ahahah. Good to know it's not just me (I have the same problem with JMS and the Trek people, too).

Indeed. Although, right now, he's pantsless.

Yay! I just got done listening to the podcast. Good to see that Sam will be around for awhile

There was stuff in the podcast. *G* He's staying around-which other people have said-but also there was a lot more to the break up scene that was scripted and filmed. Ron said he just felt it went on too long/was too purple. *Sigh*

So, we are totally missing out on stuff. Ron cut it way down and changed it so it cut back and forth from them to the jury, instead of that scene following. He says he did a version that was even shorter, but other people on the show made him get it back this long. Makes me wonder if Sam tried more to talk her into letting him help her at least.

I'm glad we are going to see more of Sam at least and I loved your fic with her at least coming to him for comfort sex! Anyway, just thought I'd add those details, frustrating though they are, at least to me.

that... saddens me. I could have enjoyed the purple prose (and shorter? WHAT? Yeah, not allowed near Dirk Benedict OR Ron Moore), damnit. *sulks*

Thank you =) (and I'm not sure it's comfort sex, but... it could be...)

Yeah, I was sad as well and would have also enjoyed the purple! I can't SWEAR to it without listening again, but I think he said the even shorter version he wanted at first had virtually no dialogue at all.

Though he also said at one point that there had been scenes showing Kara having flashbacks/nightmares to Leoben and other things to show she was having a hard time and he'd cut them as well as overkill. He wished he'd left them in somewhat, because he said maybe viewers wouldn't be with her enough in this version, which I would say is true! I mean, I understood where she was coming from, but I can see from reading other reactions that everyone didn't.

So, that one really makes me not safe to be around him, LOL, as well as him saying that there weren't more scenes of Leoben and Kara because there was nothing else to show-when I have a million questions about what happened to her during those four months and exactly what he did to her!

Hmm, well not comfort sex exactly, human contact at least? Ok, will quit babbling now honest. ;>P

and yah know, I forgot to even pic an icon, that was the one it chose automatically... alas I could not change it

hiss away... we need one with Kara/ Sam and Kara/Leoben

No worries. I'm weird and was cranky earlier. But now I will have dinner, and there is porn. So life is better.

According to the podcast, Anders is here to stay (how long, I don't know), because he's now part of the family. Take comfort in that much.

I say Yay!!! just finished the podcast :)

I wasn't surprised when Kara told Samuel to blow off for his own good. I didn't expect that Samuel would blow her off back; yet I was unsurprised when it happened, but not from anything inside the story. It was because I read something with Moore (possibly his blog at SciFi.com) where he was asked whether we'd ever get Kara/Lee and his response was, "We'll get to everything if we run long enough." So I already knew Kara/Samuel was doomed in the long run. But that doesn't mean that Samuel's action in this scene was consistent with his action till now.

Yeah, see, this is why I'm not allowed anywhere near Moore and his people when they actually talk.

I am still nauseous. I was up until 1:30 tossing and turning. Damn them (and Ben&Jerry)! I obviously can't watch this live anymore (if I have to be at work at 6).

*scritches*

Think of it this way, the make-up sex is going to be angsty and hot.

Keep telling me that and hopefully I'll believe it...

"Don't talk." She says.

And he doesn't obey her, "Kara, what are you doing?"

Her shirts hit the deck and she's bending over, scrabbling at the laces on her boots, "What's it look like?"

Sam rolls out of the rack and stands. "Kara."

And she stops and straightens. "Sam."

As much as he wants to touch her, as much as his mind and body are filling him with the feel and touch and taste of her--and he can't help the glance at her bare chest. He hasn't seen that skin in too damned long. But he can't, "Kara, you said--"

"I changed my mind." There's something lost in her eyes.

This is not what she needs. He has a moment to think that before she reaches out for him. And he gives in. He hates himself, but he cups the back of her head and kisses her.

And its worse than her goodbye, because this time, he knows that if she runs it will be the end.

A small part of him wants her to run. Wants her to go before she can hurt him again. But this is his wife, the woman who saved his ass, the woman he married. And he doesn't have the luxury of letting her go. Not when she's all he wants.

"Sam." She whimpers against his lips.

Then he's kissing her, hard, shoving back until she hits the table.

(I have to go get my roommate from work)

Wench!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

evil evil......

::: hugs her poor hurting Sam :::

They just broke the table.... (this is going to be a bit)

if she runs...okay...I feel the hope, but I may need more convincing ;)

They broke the table. *coughs* And there's kind of hope? I don't know yet, I need to make dinner and fill in the part where there's actual sex going on.

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