lyssie | note to self

When there are penises involved, it's probably not femslash. Pay more attention to the links you're opening, dear.

ok, on another note entirely, I'm also reminded --

I was having this conversation with myself, about how BSG fandom sort of leans towards the rivalry of Dee vs. Hoshi (which, what? it's the END OF THE WORLD, WHO CARES), and I said aloud, "So, basically, if they try yo drag Felix into it, he'll be all '...ok, people, whip 'em out and I'll get the measuring tape' and then Dee's ten-inch strap-on would beat Hoshi's real one... for length."

And then I decided it was possibly time to go home, as, well, it might be a sign of a deranged mind.

eta: this is not to say that Dee normally has one of those. Or that Felix would be all "yay!" at her. Most likely, he'd be all "...so, Hoshi, wanna go for dinner?" and then Dee would smirk a little, roll her eyes and mutter, "Gods. FINALLY."

eta2: update finished, whoot. Now, back to the big bang, which is, like, four scenes away from being done. *fingers crossed*

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Dee and Hoshi have a rivalry? when did that happen and how did I miss it?

I seem to recall seeing it in a few fics, but the impression that everyone assumes it is probably false. I was also very slap-happy on that drive home.

And I am the queen of ridiculous etas, and thank you. =D

lyssie, I really hope you don't mind me doing this....

Absolutely. Hoshi is pissed that Dee got the Pegasus XO job instead of him, at least, in fic ;) I have a suspicion it started in A Lot to Live Up To (http://lls-mutant.livejournal.com/238772.html). I used to post it with an icon with Dee and Hoshi back to back that said "Rivals", which was very true for this fic. Hoshi was pissed that the early 20's NCO from Galactica that was sleeping with the current commander got promoted past him- the lieutenant who had been working in the Pegasus CIC for years. (Which, while the decision to make Dee the XO made total sense in terms of casting and "who the hell do we KNOW" on the show and Adama's favoritism and Dee generally being awesome, Hoshi frankly has a point.)

I have read every Gaeta/Hoshi fic I can find, and never seen Dee written as jealous of Hoshi at all, or vice versa. Although, if I missed one, point me that way!!! :)

oh I meant to add (except I thought it was a separate post so I went looking to comment, duh) --

FOUR SCENES YAYAYAY

Erm ::raises hand:: The Dee-Hoshi rivalry might be me. (Here from

galacticanews,btw :) ) My rivals icon is out of commission, but....

I wrote a fic with it, but it's not a romantic rivalry at all. It starts after Dee is promoted to XO of the Pegasus, and it's based entirely on that. Hoshi- a 39-40 year old lieutenant- is PISSED that Dee- an early 20s NCO from another ship- is jumped up from NCO to just lieutenant and then given the XO job during New Caprica, especially given that she's sleeping with the Commander of the ship. I mean, Dee's competent- don't get me wrong- but that's a blatant case of Adama's favoritism. Really? There were no officers on the Pegasus able to be an acceptable XO? (Sorry, but this makes total sense to me that some Pegasus people would be pissed off, especially given their ever-so-high opinion of Galactica people anyway.)

Anyway, the whole fic is actually from Dee's pov and the first few chapters are dealing with her in this very awkward situation of becoming the Pegasus XO when a lot of the crew is thinking along the same lines, and Hoshi basically stirring up shit because he's angry. Since it's during New Caprica, he can kind of get away with it more because they think the Cylons are gone. Although they eventually become extremely good friends, they still do clash every now and then. (This might also be the explanation for the rare cases of Dee-Narcho you might see. He becomes one of her best friends in this fic during her year on the Pegasus.)

I don't think I've ever seen a fic with Dee vs. Hoshi over Felix, though. Almost every Hoshi/Gaeta fic I've ever read has had Dee as an enthusiastic supporter, if not an instigator/matchmaker. The only time I've ever seen the two of them written as rivals is professionally.

But Dee's strap-on would totally beat Hoshi's real equipment, I'm quite sure :)

Good luck finishing the big bang!!! :)

gah! I'm so sorry. I meant to reply to this a week ago, and it got put onto the same mental shelf as "reply to feedback!" *facepalm*

Yes, I'm pretty sure it was your fic. And it's a very good point, to be honest. The nepotism in the fleet was always ridiculous, not to mention handwaved to a massive degree wherein only people like Romo Lampkin would call it out.

And no one ever really did anything about it--or, if they did, like, say, Captains' Hand where whatsisface objects to Starbuck, they end up being wrong and dead.

I don't think I've ever seen a fic with Dee vs. Hoshi over Felix, though.

*blush* I haven't, either, I was just very tired and slap-happy, and my brain went from one thought to the other (I think I was stuck on the big bang or something and talking out loud to myself about stuff as I was driving, and stumbled across the idea).

Hee. Slap-happiness is always fun, and I know the craziness big bang can bring on! :) (I never wrote the filk for 12 colonies, but I was very tempted to do "Kacey's Mom (Has Got It Going On)." So yeah. :) )

The nepotism in the fleet was always ridiculous, not to mention handwaved to a massive degree wherein only people like Romo Lampkin would call it out.

Yeah. I mean, I got some of it. They probably wanted Lee's XO to be someone we recognized, and therefore Dee got the job. I suspect, out of context, it was a matter of giving Kandyse McClure the job over Brad Dryborough, and since Dee was the more major character, it made sense. But really, for all we saw her interacting with the crew, Hoshi could have been XO and Dee could have been Communications Officer. Heck, we didn't even see that much with Helo being XO.

I do think one of the big mistakes the BSG writers made was not taking advantage of what they brought in. They had a whole new mine of characters in the Pegasus. They didn't have to make them all major, but developing them more would have given them more options when it came time to be killing everyone off. ::grumbles about switching Dee and Hoshi's roles in 4.5, too.:: Plus, what a situation to have been in. The Pegasus people must have had some fascinating stories, and it might have been interesting to see some of those rather than Black Market or The Woman King :)

However, now you've given me an idea. Dee vs. Hoshi over Felix could be interesting, really. Not so much in the romantic sense, but Dee feeling like she needs Felix as a friend as her marriage falls apart and Felix being all happy and in love with Hoshi, and just being jealous over his time. Hmmmm....

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