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lyssie ([personal profile] lyssie) wrote2005-05-16 05:58 pm

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I don't get it. I still think fooling people into reading something with a bad ending by omitting a warning is mean.

...y'know... there's just nothin' I can say to that.

Stark Incomprehension all round, lads?

[identity profile] elemental-fey.livejournal.com 2005-05-17 02:36 am (UTC)(link)
Please forgive me for intruding.

I had hoped to speak to those willing to give some consideration to another's opinion. I had hoped to have an honest, open and intelligent discussin about a subject that has two very valid sides. However it seems that what I got is nothing more then those who are too wrapped up in their own way of thinking to even hear, much less truly consider another point of view.

I wanted to know if I would be happy here - I have my answer.

I spoke of careing gently for one another and I was met with attacks and accusations of wekaness.

I spoke of the minor amounts of time that it would take to proffer a warning and was told that movies and books do not offer such things. (Which is really strange since I could swear that's what that little R, PG and such and the tiny print that explained why a movie received the rateing it did was all about fair warning.) and if I want warnings as to books I can always check out Amazon for reveiws.

There is not room here for one who doesn't think exactly like all the others here, so I will leave you to one another and search for more open minded pastures.

I bid you good night.

[identity profile] lavidaessueno.livejournal.com 2005-05-17 02:48 am (UTC)(link)
Movies have a rating; there is no elaboration regarding why that rating was assigned. TV shows have ratings, but again, they are very general: sexuality; language; violence. Nothing about angst or character death or sadness.

We are merely pointing out that you are asking writers of fanfic to adhere to a different standard from other major forms of entertainment, and many writers feel that is unwarranted and possibly counterproductive to their goals as writers.

If you rely on Amazon reviews to find out about books, then why not rely on reader reviews for fanfiction? Why put the burden on the writers? It's the same medium: words. It's only the method of delivery that varies.
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[identity profile] nique.livejournal.com 2005-05-17 03:10 am (UTC)(link)
And good riddance, you stupid, pretentious bitch.

By the way, get yourself a fucking thesaurus.

[identity profile] karma-aster.livejournal.com 2005-05-17 05:39 am (UTC)(link)
Is it entirely possible that you're overreacting to the fact that someone, y'know, continued to express a different opinion than your own?

I totally get that you believe something different and, what's more, I respect your right to hold a different view on this subject, but you have to construct and defend your arguments with a lot more skill if you plan on convincing anyone else here to switch sides. And you also have to realize that most of the people here are of a fairly similar mindset, so the deck is kinda stacked against you, I'm afraid. Trying to call us to task for not changing our views because of your half-hearted arguments is not only pointless but downright silly.

I'd rather keep this from becoming a shouting match, so let me just say that, respectfully, I disagree with you. I think the only thing that the author can possibly be expected to warn you about is the rating of the story and what elements earn the story that rating. I don't think it's the author's reponsibility to essentially protect you from the real world which is generally NOT a fluffy, happy place. Bad stuff happens in real life, often quite abruptly, and you rarely get warned about it beforehand unless you've got some freaky precognative abilites going on.

I see a culture's art, literature, etc. as representative of the experiences of members of that culture. If our experience of the real world is that it can often be hard-edged, unfair, and just generally Not Nice, then isn't it only logical to assume that our art would reflect that observation to some extent?

That free will thing can kinda suck sometimes because it entails a lot of personal responsibility and a lot of personal acceptance of consequences. And I agree that sometimes it's very comforting to have someone or something completely external to yourself that you can blame all the bad stuff on, but that's not living and that's not being an adult. I think the sooner you understand that life isn't always fluffy and happy, the better off you usually are.