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lizardbeth_j and samanthamarie88.... (AND NO PEEKING, L!)
Dresden.
I caught on pretty quick there was either body swapping or a switch of identities--but then, that's something I have a fondness for. Liked him getting shot at and beaten. Wanted to smack him for continuing to lie to Murphy. Who really should kick his ass to the curb and tell him she won't speak to him again.
KARA.
Let's get Gaius out of the way, yes? I... really didn't give a shit about his stuff. Torture, blah blah, nightmares, blah, not a cylon, blah. The visuals, at times, were really really pretty. But I found myself getting bored and moving back to the computer, at one point. That is not a good sign.
Hell, if it weren't for the Kara/Anders subpolot, I... would not actually be talking about this episode. Much like I pretty much ignored The Passage. It was boring, it was fairly run of the mill, and I've seen better torture on Next Generation.
OH. But, it was all made better by Caprica pwning Mom in the Special Scene at the end. *hearts her beloved Caprica SO MUCH*
I may say that I find the Soap boring, but I don't find all aspects of it boring. Kara and Sam? Rock my world SO MUCH. I would like to marry them both. I find the Lee and Kara aspect yawn-worthy. I find Dee and Lee heart-breaking. She really does love him, and, I think, he really does love her. He's just really frakked in the head when it comes to dealing with women and relationships.
So.
Lee. Let's start with Lee, 'cause I want to kick him in the head a lot. Lee loves Kara. Lee loves Dee. Lee is obsessed with Kara. Lee is blind about Dee. I think he's also in a tailspin of indecision over what to do--and so he's drinking, instead. It means he doesn't have to deal with Dee and he doesn't have to deal with Kara. And he doesn't have to think about the implications Sam's comment had. Lee isn't the first. True or not? If she cheats on Sam, what's to stop her cheating on him?
And then Dee says she's leaving. In not so many words, but she walks out of his life after telling him their marriage was a lie. And that's just GREAT, for him.
Now he's in an even worse place.
Kara asks him to leave Dee. And he stalls. He isn't sure, he can't decide, and Kara mocks him for that and walks off.
So he gets drunk and plays with his wedding ring. And then he loses it, and it all crashes down. He can't save his marriage, he can't even save his frakking ring, and he isn't even sure what to do about Kara.
And that's when he decides to take some responsibility. He tells Dee it wasn't a lie. He does love her--he loves Kara, too, and he can't change that. But it's Dee he married. (though, in the end, that's also a false premise, because Kara was already married and unavailable).
Dee. As I've said before, Dee is trying to keep her marriage together, but even she has a breaking point. And she reaches it, and tells Lee that their marriage is a lie and walks out.
And as much as I want her to hit him or beat him or rail, Dee is not a physically violent woman. Self defense? Yes. Hitting her husband? That's unthinkable, and domestic abuse, in her mind. I honestly don't think she's going to take him back this easily. Not unless, I don't know, Sam hauls Kara off to live with him...
Kara. Anders. Anders. Kara. I can't deal with one without the other, but I'm going to start with Sam.
Sam has obviously been talking to Lizardbeth, SamanthaMarie, and I. 'cause, wow. His conversation with Kara? Was ripped right from us. Not to mention: They finally acknowledged that Sam and Kara actually fucking talk! They talk! Like real people! And she's told him about Leoben, right down to him being the 'fake husband'! HAH.
They talk, and he prodded her about her destiny. And then said, "Go have Lee. I'll wait." And she said, "...what?"
And Sam 'Not Quite Machiavelli' Anders wanders into the play.
He tells Kara to go to Lee. He leaves the door wide open, but he also is kinda pissy and she stops him for a goodbye kiss. And then he pulls out his ace in the hole. Sam says, "I love you", kisses her again and goes. And she's pissed. She's pissed at him and herself.
--Sidenote: HOW AWESOME was that line? "Your estranged, two-timing bitch of a wife gives you a call for sex and you hop on the first shuttle?" Yeah, I'd call that accomodating too, Sam.
He meant it, btw. He does love her. He does think there's something fucked up about the fact that he survived all that time. And that she survived. And he's right: they didn't survive just to give up on their marriage.
Then there's Kara and Lee's Wishy-Washy Divorce Pact of Pointlessness. Which ends in Kara throwing up her hands and deciding Sam is far more decisive.
I would like to note, also, that Sam dressed up to come frak his wife.
Unless he's a gigolo on the side.
ANYWAY. Then there is the bar scene, where Sam suggests he can leave (I think? On second viewing, it's not quite so clear, Skiffy's sound is fucking awful for BSG and Dresden), and Kara can have Lee... And she says no. And there is smooching. And cuteness.
And laughter and shots and invading each others' personal space. AND WEARING MATCHING SHIRTS.
And. Seriously. My otp wins. They're so hot! Also. Remember those promos that came out? Those are from this episode. The barrels are from the bar, and the shirts.... Yes.
Mmm.
I think I have said enough. Yes.
Maybe Ron will get back to not having fanfic on my screen in two weeks? Zarek'll be there...
BSG: Well. Um. Ron needs to stop reading our meta,
lizardbeth_j and samanthamarie88.... (AND NO PEEKING, L!)Dresden.
I caught on pretty quick there was either body swapping or a switch of identities--but then, that's something I have a fondness for. Liked him getting shot at and beaten. Wanted to smack him for continuing to lie to Murphy. Who really should kick his ass to the curb and tell him she won't speak to him again.
KARA.
Let's get Gaius out of the way, yes? I... really didn't give a shit about his stuff. Torture, blah blah, nightmares, blah, not a cylon, blah. The visuals, at times, were really really pretty. But I found myself getting bored and moving back to the computer, at one point. That is not a good sign.
Hell, if it weren't for the Kara/Anders subpolot, I... would not actually be talking about this episode. Much like I pretty much ignored The Passage. It was boring, it was fairly run of the mill, and I've seen better torture on Next Generation.
OH. But, it was all made better by Caprica pwning Mom in the Special Scene at the end. *hearts her beloved Caprica SO MUCH*
I may say that I find the Soap boring, but I don't find all aspects of it boring. Kara and Sam? Rock my world SO MUCH. I would like to marry them both. I find the Lee and Kara aspect yawn-worthy. I find Dee and Lee heart-breaking. She really does love him, and, I think, he really does love her. He's just really frakked in the head when it comes to dealing with women and relationships.
So.
Lee. Let's start with Lee, 'cause I want to kick him in the head a lot. Lee loves Kara. Lee loves Dee. Lee is obsessed with Kara. Lee is blind about Dee. I think he's also in a tailspin of indecision over what to do--and so he's drinking, instead. It means he doesn't have to deal with Dee and he doesn't have to deal with Kara. And he doesn't have to think about the implications Sam's comment had. Lee isn't the first. True or not? If she cheats on Sam, what's to stop her cheating on him?
And then Dee says she's leaving. In not so many words, but she walks out of his life after telling him their marriage was a lie. And that's just GREAT, for him.
Now he's in an even worse place.
Kara asks him to leave Dee. And he stalls. He isn't sure, he can't decide, and Kara mocks him for that and walks off.
So he gets drunk and plays with his wedding ring. And then he loses it, and it all crashes down. He can't save his marriage, he can't even save his frakking ring, and he isn't even sure what to do about Kara.
And that's when he decides to take some responsibility. He tells Dee it wasn't a lie. He does love her--he loves Kara, too, and he can't change that. But it's Dee he married. (though, in the end, that's also a false premise, because Kara was already married and unavailable).
Dee. As I've said before, Dee is trying to keep her marriage together, but even she has a breaking point. And she reaches it, and tells Lee that their marriage is a lie and walks out.
And as much as I want her to hit him or beat him or rail, Dee is not a physically violent woman. Self defense? Yes. Hitting her husband? That's unthinkable, and domestic abuse, in her mind. I honestly don't think she's going to take him back this easily. Not unless, I don't know, Sam hauls Kara off to live with him...
Kara. Anders. Anders. Kara. I can't deal with one without the other, but I'm going to start with Sam.
Sam has obviously been talking to Lizardbeth, SamanthaMarie, and I. 'cause, wow. His conversation with Kara? Was ripped right from us. Not to mention: They finally acknowledged that Sam and Kara actually fucking talk! They talk! Like real people! And she's told him about Leoben, right down to him being the 'fake husband'! HAH.
They talk, and he prodded her about her destiny. And then said, "Go have Lee. I'll wait." And she said, "...what?"
And Sam 'Not Quite Machiavelli' Anders wanders into the play.
He tells Kara to go to Lee. He leaves the door wide open, but he also is kinda pissy and she stops him for a goodbye kiss. And then he pulls out his ace in the hole. Sam says, "I love you", kisses her again and goes. And she's pissed. She's pissed at him and herself.
--Sidenote: HOW AWESOME was that line? "Your estranged, two-timing bitch of a wife gives you a call for sex and you hop on the first shuttle?" Yeah, I'd call that accomodating too, Sam.
He meant it, btw. He does love her. He does think there's something fucked up about the fact that he survived all that time. And that she survived. And he's right: they didn't survive just to give up on their marriage.
Then there's Kara and Lee's Wishy-Washy Divorce Pact of Pointlessness. Which ends in Kara throwing up her hands and deciding Sam is far more decisive.
I would like to note, also, that Sam dressed up to come frak his wife.
Unless he's a gigolo on the side.
ANYWAY. Then there is the bar scene, where Sam suggests he can leave (I think? On second viewing, it's not quite so clear, Skiffy's sound is fucking awful for BSG and Dresden), and Kara can have Lee... And she says no. And there is smooching. And cuteness.
And laughter and shots and invading each others' personal space. AND WEARING MATCHING SHIRTS.
And. Seriously. My otp wins. They're so hot! Also. Remember those promos that came out? Those are from this episode. The barrels are from the bar, and the shirts.... Yes.
Mmm.
I think I have said enough. Yes.
Maybe Ron will get back to not having fanfic on my screen in two weeks? Zarek'll be there...
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The timing is a bit odd on that though. So, they're clinching in Rapture. She gets her hands fixed up, Helo brings the pic and she remembers "Leoben. Destiny. Shit." Then what, she goes to Sam and tells him? Then he goes back to his other ship, after they had this rather intimate conversation? it's kind of weird, unless there was another fight, Lee moment, something in there to break it again. And yeah, I wish we could see them being, er, normal. Talking.
Exactly. That's what frustrates me with the 'passive-agressive' criticisms of Sam. Because, yes, it's somewhat valid, but what is he supposed to do? He tried a mild, sort-of ultimatum with the dog tag and she walked away. He knows he can't force her to the decision. Hell, that's at least part of the reason she married him in the first place, because Lee was backing her into a corner and she couldn't handle it. Sam slapping down an ultimatum, him or me, would result in 'him', every time. Kara has to feel she's come to the decision on her own and I think Sam understands that (not that he's unwilling to nudge her, though).
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My new wacky theory is that they talked about the Leoben stuff sometime prior to UB--the house stuff, anyway. AND. And, the thing is, Leoben told her about her Special Destiny way back in FNB, so maybe they talked about it during the Year of NC. But the painting stuff? I'm wondering if they had a conversation before he had to go, or something. Arrr.
I'm also trying to understand why Sam was 'stupid' to MARRY THE WOMAN HE LOVED. Because I've seen that in a few places, and it just.. WHAT.
I demand more conversations. And laughter. And getting in each others' personal space and the little sounds they make when they sort of surrender (Kara won, during the kiss in the bunkroom--he makes this little noise! arr!, but Sam trumped her with "I love you" and then she looked so broken and stuff before yanking the curtain back over).
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The Leoben House Party conversation definitely could have happened earlier. Maybe some nightmare induced confession? I don't know; I have a hard time imagining Kara spilling it without some kind of catalyst. I suppose the "Bastard said I had a special destiny" thing could have come out at the same time. But yeah, it's weird that he knows and when he found out. Good weird, mind you, but I think it's upsetting my carefully constructed fanon. Bad canon, no cookie!
Yeah, Sam was stupid. Because he's psychic, yo, and he should've known that Kara and Lee are "meant to be" or some such. Whatever. As long as the stupids keep away from me, I'm fine.
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Canon just looks cutely at you.
Dude. I am fastening on Sam's little noise of surrender when he was kissing KAra--and before he said "I love you". Which. I am also all fastened on. And clinging to.