lyssie: (Parker not end well)
lyssie ([personal profile] lyssie) wrote2004-12-26 01:17 pm

ofmg... someone PLEASE explain this to me...

WHY do people want fic where Sam gets beaten up/abused by Pete, and then Jack goes and kicks his ass??

WHY?

First. If Pete were to raise a hand to her, he would find his ass SO DUMPED he'd be digging himself out of the landfill in Denver.

Second. Sam has been hanging around Teal'c, the marines, and JACK for how long? and they don't think she's picked up a little more fighting skill? (she kicked the Turghan's ass, people) If Pete succeeded in actually touching her? She would probably kick his ass herself.

Physical abuse is NOT something she'd tolerate. It might affect her job performance, for one thing. For another, she isn't going to stay with a guy who's abusing her! Her self-esteem ain't quite that low, thanks.

Another thing I keep seeing: Sam hides these abuse injuries from the SGC's doctors...

Mandatory post-mission physicals. There is NO EXCUSE that will get you out of one -- hello? Threat to the planet if you're a goa'uld?

And if she does get one? Those doctors are GOING TO NOTICE patterns of bruising, cracked ribs, and fingermarks on that pale, pale skin that bruises so easily...

Neither Brightman nor Janet is going to believe she got injured on the mission if she's the only one, and none of the guys remember it!

Makes note: Write a fic where Pete attempts to hit Sam and she kicks his ass, dumps it, then stalks off to kill Ba'al or something. *mutters* (ps. am leaving in five minutes for home)

[identity profile] karma-aster.livejournal.com 2004-12-26 08:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Pft! I'd get myself stuck in a physically-abusive relationship before Sam would. And I'm the kinda gal who, the first time I got hit, would either be out the door or he'd be picking up every one of his damn teeth.

Although, yeah, I can also see emotional abuse/manipulation as a possibility. But otherwise? Sam is far too strong, smart, and brave to get caught in a relationship like that. That's among the major reasons that I adore her. Hell, it's likely why Jack loves her too!

[identity profile] mylittleredgirl.livejournal.com 2004-12-26 08:49 pm (UTC)(link)
She also, with a few brief lapses, doesn't think she *NEEDS* to be in a relationship. It's been this big huge stretch for her to get and be in a relationship at all, and if it gets substantially less convenient to maintain, like she is getting beat on, she can go back to being single. She's been alone and relatively content for a long time -- which I think would help her say "fuck off, evil abusive bastard" without being OMG SO AFEARED of being left alone.

Emotional manipulation is less obvious. While Sam totally KICKS ASS in a lot of ways, I suspect she's pretty insecure socially... so if someone she cares about tells her things that boil down to "this is wrong because YOU are not doing enough," I think that would be a sucker-punch right to her weak spot. I also don't think she's been in enough (if any) really GOOD, healthy relationships to have a clear picture that This Is Not The Way It Should Be.
ext_26799: (Sam C.)

See...

[identity profile] nique.livejournal.com 2004-12-26 09:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah. That is... pretty much Sam in a nutshell from what I've seen. She's not really that great with emotions, and Pete strikes me as the kind of guy who just might chip away at her to get her to do what he wants... I've been saying, since the guy was introduced and was all "Must find out secret job!" that he strikes me as the type who would, through emotional attachment, try to get her to give up a large part of her career--namely going through the gate--so she could be the happy suburban wife who just happens to do astrophysics work for the Air Force... and Sam's unwillingness to just flat out say "I cannot tell you what I do, it's classified" lends me to think that she's very, very unsure emotionally, and lacks the metaphorical balls to tell the guy she (theoretically) loves 'no' in that sort of situation.

Re: See...

[identity profile] mylittleredgirl.livejournal.com 2004-12-26 09:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Bingo.

That was an amazingly long sentence. You are SO FREAKING RIGHT, and I don't think I've heard it summed up better.