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I can't hold on to it....
So. I've now seen TTT again.
That's only twice, for those counting. I picked up some stuff that I didn't last time. Mostly the Arwen/Aragorn implications--which makes sense, since those work best if you've seen... the extended FotR.
Pod Faramir was again irritating. There's a point where you stop going, "Oh, he's sort of nifty." and go, "Well, flonq. Thanks for screwing that character with a chainsaw."
I still have to mock the ignorance of Dunharrow. I mean. Duh. And when the column is attacked, Theoden does what? He sends ALL OF THE HORSEMEN to the FRONT. Which means, there's suddenly this long, unprotected section of column. GREAT thinking there, Theo.
Sadly, Saruman's people didn't take advantage of that (or had planned it that way. I thought they were just a Leeetle more intelligent)
Eomer, though. When Eomer and Friends surround the Three Rescuers, Eomer never introduces himself. Yet, later on, Aragorn talks about him as if the conversation ran far longer. Please, god, let there be extra on the DVD. Like, say, the Gimli comments about Galadriel.
Osgiliath. It's pretty, it's cute, and they're on the wrong damned side of the Anduin. Er. River. See, Ithilien, where Gollum was leading them through, is on the EAST side of the River. At some point while they're in Osgiliath, Faramir is told, "The orcs have taken the east bank." Hell, they're FIRING on the east bank.
So. How do Sam and Frodo get back across the river, so they can be led onwards by Stinker and Slinker?
Also. Still hate Sam's response. Why are they doing it? Hope. Duh. Hope. Each other. Life itself. Not "that there might be good in places/people" Gah.
So. Second viewing is good. Viewing the Extended FotR makes the second viewing better, since some of the things in the TT don't make sense without the scenes in XFotR....
That's only twice, for those counting. I picked up some stuff that I didn't last time. Mostly the Arwen/Aragorn implications--which makes sense, since those work best if you've seen... the extended FotR.
Pod Faramir was again irritating. There's a point where you stop going, "Oh, he's sort of nifty." and go, "Well, flonq. Thanks for screwing that character with a chainsaw."
I still have to mock the ignorance of Dunharrow. I mean. Duh. And when the column is attacked, Theoden does what? He sends ALL OF THE HORSEMEN to the FRONT. Which means, there's suddenly this long, unprotected section of column. GREAT thinking there, Theo.
Sadly, Saruman's people didn't take advantage of that (or had planned it that way. I thought they were just a Leeetle more intelligent)
Eomer, though. When Eomer and Friends surround the Three Rescuers, Eomer never introduces himself. Yet, later on, Aragorn talks about him as if the conversation ran far longer. Please, god, let there be extra on the DVD. Like, say, the Gimli comments about Galadriel.
Osgiliath. It's pretty, it's cute, and they're on the wrong damned side of the Anduin. Er. River. See, Ithilien, where Gollum was leading them through, is on the EAST side of the River. At some point while they're in Osgiliath, Faramir is told, "The orcs have taken the east bank." Hell, they're FIRING on the east bank.
So. How do Sam and Frodo get back across the river, so they can be led onwards by Stinker and Slinker?
Also. Still hate Sam's response. Why are they doing it? Hope. Duh. Hope. Each other. Life itself. Not "that there might be good in places/people" Gah.
So. Second viewing is good. Viewing the Extended FotR makes the second viewing better, since some of the things in the TT don't make sense without the scenes in XFotR....
Re: OK, I'll bite
Faramir doesn't want the ring. Ever. He says something to the effect that he would throw it away were he even to find it on the road in front of him.
Despite his father loving his brother ten times more, and basically slagging Faramir all the time, Faramir doesn't have this over-whelming need to prove himself. He knows he's nifty, his men adore him.
The meeting in TT is a good meeting. A nice respite for Sam and Frodo. Sadly, the movie makes it yet another stress-inducer.
And. Gollum's song! Hee!
I am holding all judgements until the extended DVD.
Faramir was my only problem with the TT, so I'm hoping PJ either has more footage or justifies it in the commentary. I wasn't dissapointed with the FotR commentary, so I'm hoping the TT will be up to the same quality.
I think it was because PJ felt that each set of characters needs to have a climax point in each movie. (which you do, since there are many of the unwashed who think this is 3 movies rather than one 9-11 hour movie.) If he were to release LotR in a 12 hour one-movie cut, I would hope that this sequence gets deep sixed in exchange for something closer to the book. I would assume that in the first draft, he tried to fit in Shelob in this part of the movie for a more "natural" plot point, but it's too complex to fit, so he had to change something to make an "artificial" high point where there previously was none.
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