lyssie | sff: Revenge 1x15

It's the episode I was assuming would be the season finale, so I think I sort of give the writers points for having it come seven episodes prior to the season end.

So many plot-threads, and SO MANY MEN telling the women what to do. I'm not sure I'm comfortable or pleased about that, but I suppose we'll see.

1. Amanda is alive, and hopefully not shot too badly (I assume it was a graze). She is also now in the hands off the sensei who dumped Emily, which means he might offer to train her in the art of revenge and survival. Will she come back in x number of years to get her revenge on? Also, she totally went there to stop Tyler's revenge plan, because Emily still owns her soul. Sisters, my ass.

2. Nolan was plotting. It didn't feel right, to be honest. That's not his job. :/

3. I'm surprised that Daniel's rebellion wasn't exactly what Emily wanted? Like, from the flashback last week, I thought she would have been aiming for this: divorcing him from the family name. Fuck, I was expecting him to tell her he wanted to take her name when they eloped. I'm really hoping that it's not going to devolve into "Emily is really just a gold-digger", as that's what's now been implied. I liked revenge much better.

4. Oh, Charlotte. SOMEONE HUG THAT GIRL. Someone who isn't her not-biological father or her mother. Or Declan. I don't think his hugging her will help. I sort of hope she and Emily band together and get revenge on everyone. Then Amanda can come back and show them up or something. I also hope someone calls her on her current abuse of pain-killers (and I hope she doesn't attempt suicide, as that really would be cliche)

5. Victoria actually managed to get one over on Emily, with the whole eloping business. I wish she hadn't, as it showed how unintelligent Emily has been. And that grates.

6. I'm glad Tyler is dead.

7. Again, though, I'm a bit annoyed that it was all "men do lots of things, Emily sort of stands around with her mouth hanging open"

8. I'm also disappointed that my "Emily shoots Daniel as her final revenge" idea isn't what happened. sigh. That would have been more interesting.

9. Er, btw, I think Daniel did shoot Tyler--I think there was a struggle. Then I think Amanda showed up and shot him two more times in the back and grabbed the photos so Tyler wouldn't have incriminating evidence on him.

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I'm getting really frustrated with the show. I'm assuming Takeda got Tyler released--it's the only logical explanation for how he knew where to find the box, and for how Tyler knew how to find Amanda. Otherwise, it's a cheap trick by the writers and it just isn't believable (either that he was released only weeks after being taken into custody or that he escaped and nobody warned the people he held at gunpoint and then *surprise!* immediately went after again. Also, I will be extremely peeved if it turns out Amanda's father is alive.

Also: Charlotte would very likely be in serious need of medical attention, especially if she took more than one tablet. I'm not sure who decided that 80mg of oxycodone was a reasonable dose (likely the props guy who doesn't know anything about it; 30mg is a high dose of this stuff), but yeeeesh. Mix that tablet with champagne and she'd be in trouble.

Oh, I hadn't even thought of that. I like that even less than I already disliked things (stop putting penises in charge of the plot, show)

Amanda's father being alive would be, um, wrong. Like, it would be cheap and a game-changer, but I'd still hate it a lot.

Yeah, broken ribs or not, that sounds like a goof and not a deliberately high dose. (I still stand by my thesis that Charlotte needs a hug. And a therapist. And to punch her not-grandfather in the face)

I really disliked this episode and I thought I was going to love it. Emily suddenly lost control of situation and had to be rescued by a guy who wasn't even on the same continent for most of it and, somehow, still knew better what was happening. Nolan seemed to be on the whole thing with Takeda like he was his best friend. Emily was almost taken out of her own story. Bleh.

The whole gold-digger thing coming out of blue was stupid too. Emily has money. I also don't understand why Daniel was so shocked she wasn't going to abandon her life, friends and charities (all the thing he thinks she has) to suddenly go live in Paris. It would feel wrong if she did agree. There are other ways to untangle from family then running away to another continent. And I'm disappointed Takeda didn't tell her Daniel would try that.

Tyler was the body as everyone expected. I now think Daniel will get framed as David Clarke was.

The only thing I liked was Amanda running to Emily's rescue when she understood Emily does care ♥ I hope she won't disappear.

And you are right - oh, Charlotte - was my reaction, too.

YES, tHAT. ALL OF IT. Also, if Nolan never opens his mouth again to tell Emily that she should be barefoot and pregnant, it will be too soon.

I also don't like how the show is basically saying "Women are ineffective planners, they always let their emotions get in the way. Lol. Only men, with their logic can save them" now.

6. I'm glad Tyler is dead.

This. This cannot be said too much. I was kind of hoping that's where they were going, but dismissed it as too obvious. Yay for too obvious not being enough to shoot it down.

Because, this. So damned much.

I was hoping he would never be back, so him showing up again was... very annoying. I was perfectly happy with the thought that Daniel would die. sigh.

BUT. If he had to come back, at least he's dead and can't be annoying anymore.

This *is* a show with a lot of flashbacks, though, so can't rule anything out. More's the pity.

I like Daniel, so I'm kind of hoping he sticks around.

What a horrible thought. (I'm sorry, actor who plays Tyler. It's not your fault.)

I want to like Daniel, but he's so easily swayed. I do feel like his decision to run away might have been him growing up just a little. And yet, idk.

I felt like they needed Emily to be out of control for the chaos to happen, but they couldn't quite figure out how to accomplish that without men doing all the stuff. I did like how Emily seemed calm, unruffled, and prepared for anything at the party, contrasted against the outbreak of chaos, but I think it could have been done better. And I didn't like that she was caught off guard more than once in the episode, she's been much better at predicting other people's behavior in the past. I need to watch it again, though, I feel that I missed something important. I'm not really at my best that late on a Wednesday.

Yes, that was why they did it, I think. But it just felt like it was so much lazy writing, argh.

I'm not sure if you missed anything?

Yep, I definitely did miss stuff. I rewatched it last night on Hulu, and there are several assumptions we're supposed to make as viewers that very much could be something else. Time will tell I suppose, but Emily might have been a little less passive than she appeared in a couple of scenes. I don't want to spoil in case I'm right, but take another look at how they choose to cut away in a couple of spots. If I'm right, it's less lazy than we thought. If I'm wrong, well, it's lazier than I thought on my first viewing, because I was cutting the writers more slack than you did.

On my first viewing, I gave Daniel more credit than he deserved in the Paris discussion, because I didn't catch that he was so bone-headed as to get pissed with Emily before she even said yes or no to his plan. She never actually said she wouldn't go to Paris, she just asked why, and he was a complete ass about it. My first time around, I mentally translated his "let's move to Paris forever" to "let's go to Paris for six weeks" which I'm going to guess is not an outrageous translation in selfish rich boy language. Had the version of Emily that Daniel knows said no to that, she would have been a little bit in the wrong, because when you love someone and they're having an emotional breakdown for actual reasons, you do what they need even if it's not convenient. She doesn't have kids or an actual job, so she has nothing that trumps his emotional needs in the short term -- writing big checks to charities can be done from anywhere, and Emily has presented herself as an avid world traveler. However, she never said no, she asked why, and he never bothered to answer. So in addition to his semi-understandable selfishness, he's also stupid, which in this particular case is worse, in my opinion.

Also, who's cell phone was ringing in Tyler's pocket while he was dead on the beach? That's going to matter, I think, and I completely missed it the first time.

The cell is Daniel's--Tyler takes it from him when he goes to call Emily that first time. And then (I think) Tyler texts her? I don't remember everything right now.

But you're right on Daniel--then again, his mother primed him to think the worst of any hesitation. Reminding him that it was a whirlwind courtship, etc, etc., so he was looking for any excuse. Not to mention, I think he's maybe suspected a little bit, somewhere, that she wasn't... all that he thought she was? That she was someone else? (I wonder if somewhere, he also remembers the real first time they met?)

I am hoping that the writers were better than I'm giving them credit for. But I've long since stopped giving writers much slack, and it's hard to break that habit.

Generally speaking, if they're doing a good enough job that I haven't given up on the show in a fit of rage, I'll give them slack in this type of situation. It helps that I almost never watch mainstream stuff, so my faith and/or forgiveness is rewarded a little more often than not. Unless Rick Berman or Brannon Braga or Kenneth Biller is involved, then I just sort of brace for the worst. Also I make it a rule to avoid interviews -- no good can come of me knowing what (most of) these people think.

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