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lyssie ([personal profile] lyssie) wrote2009-03-17 09:28 pm
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So. BSG. And Spoilers. And something's been bugging me.

There are about to be spoilers in this post for the last episode. It's, in the grand scheme, actually pretty minor a spoiler. But it is one, nonetheless.

In Portland, Katee Sackhoff dropped a minor spoiler about something that happens to her character. No, she doesn't die (again). No, she doesn't punch someone... Or blow things up or fly a viper into the sun, or-- She just ends up with someone.

Now large swathes of the internet are up in arms about it and calling for Katee's head because her personal behavior may have influenced the writers when they chose the direction of the story.

Which isn't really what I want to talk about.

I've had this sort of... disquiet? I don't think that's the right word, but I'll go with it... feeling of annoyance ever since the spoiler dropped and people started getting up in arms. Because, well, it's a pretty minor spoiler. It doesn't have to do with the plot, it really doesn't define Kara's character, and... and it's mostly about who she's fucking, not to put too fine a point on it.

And, really, I thought we were sort of past that, to seeing women as characters and people, not... as convenient vessels for the Perfect Man we want them with.

Right about now, you're all going (if you know the spoiler), "BUT, Lyssie, if it were Kara ending up with Lee, you'd so be ranting and bitching about it and--"

Well, yeah. But, to be honest, I sort of expect the show to end with Kara and Lee together romantically, as that's the predictable ending. More than one person has said academic stuff about narrative causality and closure and whatever, which ought to have bearing on it (even if I don't agree with it).

But that isn't really all I care about ok, it sometimes is. I want explosions and people redeeming themselves and humans and Cylons facing hard truths and pilots and pilot culture and Racetrack and Dee and... But I sort of know I won't get most of that, either.

And if Katee's spoiler comment had been, "...that's why she ends up with Lee..." my reaction? Would not be "God, Katee's such a bitch, she's so fucking unprofessional, where does she get off!"

My reaction would, in fact (and may still), be, "God, Ron, you're such a hack."

I've gotten away from my original point. Sigh.

My point? Reducing Kara and her destiny and her viper and her piloting and her skills as a leader/renegade and what she is and who she is and everything about her as a person to "who owns Kara's vagina"?

Is kinda sexist.

[identity profile] mfirefly10.livejournal.com 2009-03-18 07:04 am (UTC)(link)
I completely agree with you that the focus of the entire finale should not be on who Kara ends up with. That said, as a diehard shipper myself, I can understand the disappointment and frustration that one experiences if your couple doesn't end up together...HOWEVER...

I don't think the K/L shippers should be blaming Katee for this. While she may've had some influence over the storyline, her decision wasn't based on "well, I just really like this relationship more". Her decision was based on what she thought was best for her character and I think it's an actor's duty to step up and fight for that, even if they don't win.

So, anyway, I understand the sadness one feels when things don't go their way but I don't think the actors should be blamed for it...And I don't think it should be the only thing taken away from an entire series, especially one with so many complex characters and storylines.
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2009-03-18 11:46 am (UTC)(link)
I can, like, understand it if I try hard? But since I never expected Kara and Sam to end up together (or Kara and Leoben), I really can't put myself in their shoes. The closest I can come is Elizabeth Weir getting killed off in Stargate: Atlantis and how that wrecked Weir/Sheppard.

Which can, technically, be blamed on Torri H. for daring to question why the women on the show never talked and why there wasn't a single woman in the writing room.
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2009-03-18 12:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Because whiny white men hold the cards there, and women don't watch SF.?

I mean, I know there was that minor implosion a couple months ago when that dude said women don't like superhero movies. But I keep getting told that women who like That Sort of Thing are in a tiny tiny minority, so they aren't a viable market.

And women write about relationships, not space opera. tsk. Or they write acceptably about boy wizards.
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[personal profile] havocthecat 2009-03-18 01:13 pm (UTC)(link)
I had to do a double-take. This is almost exactly the sort of thing [Bad username or site: @ livejournal.com] would say. Including the all-caps.

[identity profile] hecatesknickers.livejournal.com 2009-03-18 03:31 pm (UTC)(link)
You guys should fix that. The snark and hot kickass women with guns would be epic.

I'll uh, cheer you on from the sidelines? I have pompoms and know how to use them!
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2009-03-18 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
You can run our fanboard and kick people for posting smutty manips.

[identity profile] sabaceanbabe.livejournal.com 2009-03-18 05:11 pm (UTC)(link)
There is. It's just not being made into a movie or tv show. (Yet. I hope yet. But then again, it hasn't actually been published yet, either. And no, it's not anything I'm writing, just in case you were wondering. :P)

[identity profile] mfirefly10.livejournal.com 2009-03-18 01:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Gods...I miss Elizabeth...Sheppard/Weir was my SGA OTP...:(