SFF: frak, what do you mean it's actually friday?

[lyssie]

BSG: ...

1. The entire Adama and Tigh scene was painfully awful. And not in the ouch, that hurts in a good way way. No, in the bad dialog, pointless placement and stupid stupid stupid way. SUCH a waste of screentime.

2. D'Anna has finally had her faith broken. Oh, D. :/

3. The Agathons are possibly the most adorable thing EVER.

4. Second only to Dee and Lee being cute and adorable and awesome. Man. If only...

5. If only, y'know, Ron wasn't intent on killing the women in the show off.

6. Kara and Leoben find her body and she burns it (hey, Kara, dead bodies aren't pretty, duh). Also, baby, when Leoben is scared as fuck, maybe you should take a hint. Kudos to CKR for the performance.

7. Sam, Tyrol and Tory were all frak-buddies, once upon a time. And Sam was a musician. *snicker*

8. lizardbeth_j was right! The 13th tribe were Cylons.

9. No Kara and Sam or Kara and Helo interaction, but Kara did get cock-blocked when trying to talk to Lee about how she wasn't human no more. *snicker*

10. CYLONPILOTS DIGGING IN THE DIRT.

11. Roslin. Man. So pathetic. I guess they're really going about that whole destruction of their female characters still.

12. Which reminds me: Leoben and Kara (again). You know how in season three, there was lots of stuff with her and Sam and her destiny, and there was spec that it should have been her and Leoben? Yeah. Now it just feels wrong that it's not Sam watching her back. :/

13. HI ELLEN.

14. Oh, Dee. Dee, who was so brilliant and loving and wonderful and so young. Who lost Billy and gained Lee and then lost Lee before she ever really had him. Who kept the fleet running all those months Kara was trying to find Earth (and even before). Who was a constant friend to Felix. Who broke on Earth, when her last piece of faith was shattered.

I knew, you know, going in. I knew something was going to happen. And I was terrified of what they'd do.

Now I'm just waiting for them to drag her name through the mud like they did Cally's.

Anyone who is actually glad she's dead needs to get the motherfucking hell of my flist. NOW.

15. Deathwatch:
Female: 1.
Male: 0.

HEY RON. KILL SOME FUCKING MEN ALREADY. ASSHOLE.

Comments

[ancarett]

Dee! Dee! Dee.

I knew they were going to kill her off when they gave her the "Previously, on Battlestar Galactica" line. Bastards.

[lyssie.livejournal.com]

I was thinking about it, like the way they put Tara's name in the credits that one time on Buffy... :/

[aj.livejournal.com]

*sighs*

As Billy and Dee have an Awkward Moment on the Death Couch, Jean just smacks them both and hands them shit to throw at Lee.

[lyssie.livejournal.com]

Good plan. Lee needs his sangfroid busted. *cries*

[stargazercmc.livejournal.com]

What a pointless fucking wasted death. Seriously. I kept waiting to see a jump to a basestar where she was waking up again.

[lyssie.livejournal.com]

THIS. THIS THIS THIS.

Obvsly, I need to get writing.

[quietdarkness.livejournal.com]

What really irritated the snot out of me was the "OMG, let's all kill ourselves" among the upper echelon. Ok, Dee was tragic, the rest was really overkill. I particularly liked Tigh talking Bill out of it, and then wading out into the water. Give me a break. Maybe there's mass psychosis radioactive dust on the planet, but I'm betting it's just bad writing:P

My husband and I ran the tivo back and looked. Is that Kara in the Chief's flashback? We can't tell.

If Kara is indeed a Cylon, and the planet is destroyed, exactly who resurrected her and built the raptor? I sure hope they explain this, I really do.

[lyssie.livejournal.com]

COMMAND IS SO HARRRRRRd.

*eyeroll* I mean. I'm glad Lee was able to step up, but, sheesh.

I don't know if it's Kara.

Ron might explain! I never thought he'd give us the fifth cylon, you know.

[rodlox.livejournal.com]

who built the raptor? SkyNet did.

[lyssie.livejournal.com]

IT SHOWS THE DEEP AND ABIDING PAIN. And also gives Adama impetus to try to kill himself and say horrible things about Ellen (TWO WOMEN WITH ONE REFRIGERATOR, GOOD JOB, RON)

I'm in the middle. There were bits I liked (CKR's reaction, even if I wanted Sam there instead), and, um... Dee and Lee being adorable and the Agathons. AND D'ANNA. Because I have a hard time hating on D. Even when she's batshit.

[hugamoose.livejournal.com]

I cant help but wonder if there is more to Dee's Death then a simple She decided to 86 herself~

I did like the Adama/Tigh scene I think Bill really needed someone to talk to since Laura was in the middle in a major frakking meltdown and was so overwhelmed with everything he just wanted out not really wanted to die just out and wanted his friend back at the same time~

Ellen was a shock and then again I have thought that she might be one~ Im just glad it wasn't Baltar~

Leoben Freaking was funny since I imagine it would take a lot to freak him out, it either messed with his beliefs or made him remember~

It doesn't surprised me that Kara is so not going to tell at least at first~

I thought a totally Deflated D'Anna was great it is about time that she got of her high horse~

The thing about earth doesn't surprise me at all it was one of the hypothesis that have been running through my house, but then again just about every conceivable hypothesis have been running through my house about what was going to happen -lol

Overall I thought it was a great episode I wasn't disappointed so many times they hype up somethings so much that the outcome paled in comparison I didn't feel that way~ at least not yet~

[lyssie.livejournal.com]

I think expecting more from Dee's death is giving Ron too much credit, sadly. It's mostly there as an impetus for Adama (and also so Lee is now free and clear to pursue Kara, of course).

Leoben freaking out remains a high point. ;]

[noybusiness.livejournal.com]

"HEY RON. KILL SOME FUCKING MEN ALREADY. ASSHOLE."

But not little Nicky Tyrol you diabolical.

[lyssie.livejournal.com]

Ron doesn't listen to me about killing men, anyway. Besides, Nicky has a date with Boomer and a greenhouse and being sticky.

[nicole-anell.livejournal.com]

ANNA.

The Agathons are possibly the most adorable thing EVER.
Yes! *melts* Athena shot who in the what now? I don't care. PLAYING RAPTOR-CRASH WITH HERA. SO CUTE.

Honestly I thought Lee/Dualla was very awkward at first, but then the scene of them after their date was so sweet.

Okay, I'm annoyed -- I've been annoyed since I found out. I tend to give RDM slack with the woman-killing, but this is the THIRD TIME with the suicide when they don't know what to do with a female -- only with Cally and Gina it felt right to me, and this just felt forced.

When you compare Dualla's role from here to now with what they've done with Anders and Gaeta, it's really clear how little they ever invested in her character. :/ That saddens me. The shock effect did work and I'll get over it (I'm already like ELLEN ELLEN YAAAAY) but I figured this was a good place to rant about the bullshit factor. Can't imagine why. :)


P.S. Is that the end of D'Anna? Loved that moment but I wish it wasn't so ambiguous.

[havocthecat]

Um, didn't Cally get airlocked by Tory - homicide, not suicide. Right?

[havocthecat]

I fucking hate that I'm so glad I stopped watching this show.

[lyssie.livejournal.com]

HAHAHAHAH. Seriously, you would have been throwing things.

[alryssa.livejournal.com]

I'm so angry about Dee. SO MUCH RAGE.

Yes, I'm sure the Kara/Lee crazies are SO happy the way for their OTP has been cleared once more.

Additionally: When the Cylon is freaked out, you know things are going to hell.

Additionally, part 2: I will note that CKR is wearing almost the exact same thing he was wearing in Due South.

And he still has experimental hair.

[lyssie.livejournal.com]

RAGE, YES.

Leoben freaking out was totally a high point of the episode. ;]

And he still has experimental hair.

BWAHAHAHA. LEOBEN WAS RAY. And then Earth went boom and he got stuck in the streams and--

[scifiaddict86.livejournal.com]

6.Leobon was less annoying to me this episode mainly because he was talking like an actual person for once. His fear of character pissed me off again though she really needed at someone to stick around.
3. Yeah that was so cute it was nice to see someone happy at least considering.
9. Yeah I hope we get Kara and Sam in the same room next week. But I think we're going to get the Kara/Lee kiss (possibly even a hook-up) next week

[lyssie.livejournal.com]

6. I have my ups and downs with Leoben, and I was actually pleased to see that HIS idea of what Kara's destiny is is NOT right.

9. Blechth. Though I shouldn't be surprised given how the writers took the last two episodes to suddenly go, "Hey, remember when the mini-series had them talking?"

[lyssie.livejournal.com]

Everyone is totes a Cylon. *laughs madly*

1. And it so could have been the good kind of awkward and... failed. so hard.

10. I was staring, going, "They couldn't uncover that much ground that fast!"

[scarfman]

I said to qtrhorserider, "He's never backed away from Kara before." (But then, is it really Kara now?)

The Adama-Tighe scene came on as I was writing this, taping the episode for scarfmom. It is pretty trite, innit?

Handy icon for this post.

[lyssie.livejournal.com]

(who knoooooooooows)

It is. And it didn't have to be. Sigh.

[noybusiness.livejournal.com]

I liked Sam being a musician in his past life. If he was a sports player it would have been a bit too repetitive. I wonder who his love was? Tory or someone who died and stayed dead?

[lyssie.livejournal.com]

I'm with palmetto with this one.

[emmiere.livejournal.com]

Oh, Dee. I'm just now processing that she's actually gone from the show.

And word on Adama, everyone in the theater with me kept giggling throughout that scene. Tigh was fine though.

More Cylon society flashbacks, please.

[lyssie.livejournal.com]

I will miss her. And I will always hate that she was their token suicide.

Adama should have been cut. SO MUCH. That scene was awful.

[prozacpark.livejournal.com]

1). The Adama and Tigh scene was the most horrible thing in an episode filled with, well, crappy things. So, yeah.

7). Can we now have a show set entirely in the Earth flashbacks with Cylon orgies? I wonder if Tigh and Ellen joined them sometimes?

11). Roslin. Sigh. It's so hard to look at most of the women on the show and be able to connect them to the people they used to be, there's been such a discontinuity in characterization.

12). Also, Sam was totally the one who told her to follow the yellow brick road. She could've, at the very least, taken him along? And Sam? Would not have run away. Although, Leoben being afraid may have been the only fun moment in the entire episode for me.

13). I'm trying to have thoughts about the episode other than Dee being dead, but it's really, really hard. Like, I'm possibly not even as annoyed by the lack of OTP as I would normally be (considering that the OTP potential was the only reason I even ended up watching after someone spoiled me on the Dee bit).

Dee was awesome in this episode, but it was so clearly all leading up to her death, and just. They shouldn't get to do this, forget about characters for, like, a whole season and then bring them back just because it's her death that would make the most fucking impact? Ah! And I just read the interview with him explaining why he did it, and I don't think I've ever been more disgusted by an interview.

[lyssie.livejournal.com]

I SAW THAT INTERVIEW AND WAS ALL, "RON, SHUT UP." (I will have a more coherent reply at some point after I've slept)

[tafkarfanfic.livejournal.com]

Things that pissed me off:
- After two thousand years, they found THAT MANY artifacts exposed and in relatively perfect condition? That's ludicrous. (My other half said, "You can buy reincarnating robots and yet that throws you out of the show?" Well, yeah, because they set up the reincarnating robots as part of the conceptual framework, and also SET UP NORMAL EARTH PHYSICS as part of the show.)
- Dee killing herself. FUCKING HELL. The fact that we've had three women kill themselves on screen (four, if you count Starbuck imploding her ship way back when while in search of Earth) on this show is ludicrous, considering that the male/female split on suicide rates is anywhere from 4 to 1 to 6 to 1, depending on what nation you're in. (10 men to every woman in parts of Latin America.) The only country where more women kill themselves than men is China, and that's only by a teeny-tiny amount.
- And BESIDES the sheer statistical nature of it, it was just not in character. I don't care what they say. It wasn't in character, it was a "how can we shock the audience the most?"
- I was just afraid she was going to take Hera with her into death when she was babysitting, because the handwriting was clearly on the wall at that point.
- And I bet that we'll find out Deanna offed herself too, and DID stay on the damned planet.
- So, apparently the Adama men are the only people allowed to lead. If you are a woman leader, you are fucked in the head.
- I really liked seeing Baltar be a competent scientist for once.
- Loved Leoben in this, more than I've ever loved him on the show. And I've loved him a lot.
- At least a few men on this show (Helo, for example) are allowed to keep their integrity. If a woman has any integrity, she's dead meat.
- In conclusion: this show has become nothing but angst-porn. Really. It's the pornography of angst and despair. I have bad fanfic in other fandoms for that.

My other half is a huge fan of the show and I can't say one word against it in his hearing. It's very frustrating. I'm glad I have this space to vent.

[lyssie.livejournal.com]

Oh, yeah. Artifacts totally last that long in a wet environment like a sea/river side!

Wait. So. Men kill themselves more often in real life, but in BSG.... oh, man. You know. That is even more damning.

I was actually a bit worried about Hera, too.

Like I said to someone above, if D stays on dead!Earth, I will be cranky. They NEED her to bitchslap Cavil and his people, at some point. Dammit.

Not only are women fucked in the head, they're not allowed to congregate or even talk to each other.

Vent away all you want. I watch the show, but I'm very aware of its short-comings. It's almost like... poking a scab, now. I want to see just how bad it will get before the end.