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lyssie ([personal profile] lyssie) wrote2008-05-02 10:17 pm

sff: I should really make dinner edition...

Doctor Who: ...I've read this book, it was called 'The Pit'. I liked the book better.
BSG: oh frak me.

DW. Sigh. Um. It was mostly good?

Just. Seriously bad dialog. Like, WORSE THAN BSG BAD. And the stereotypical family? So over that shit.


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This is probably going to be a quick review, with something longer tomorrow.

Before I begin, let me get one thing out of the way. RON MOORE, YOU FUCKING ASSHOLE, YOU KILLED MY MARINE SERGEANT GIRLFRIEND.

What is this, woman #5 to die this season? And how many men have died again?

ALL RIGHT.

1. The Kara and Helo Caprica Road Show in SPAAAAaaaaaaaaaaace is on day 58, or something big like that. Dude. How often did Sam get to frak his wife? You know that's totally why she couldn't find her printout, in the beginning. She was thinking, "frak. Sam I had sex over here and I shoved this all out of the way, now where did--"

2. Kara is crazy-pants, but I get this kind of crazy-pants way more than the shouty crap from the second episode. This is the Kara I've been writing in my season 4 stuff, so I was pleased.

3. Kara/Sam otp 4ever.

4. Helo is very worried and uncertain. Poor Helo. You shouldn't have volunteered.

5. Speaking of Mathias, Dee and Racetrack must be running Galactica all on their own now. Seriously, whose bright idea was it to go "let's send all the pilots and marines with Kara!" ?

6. So, anyway, then my first Cylon boyfriend, Leoben, shows up. And he's all "Kara I knew you'd find me." and she's all, "Let's go paint dirty pictures until Sam gets back."

7. Did I mention that I love that Sam's a viper jock? That he's a pilot and he was out on some long-ass recon, and that it's kinda hot when he gets back and finds out that no one objected to Kara being alone with the Cylon wackjob and he's all, "oh, I don't think so..."

8. SAM GOT TO HIT LEOBEN. AND KICK HIM IN THE HEAD. SAM HAS BEEN WAITING A LONG TIME, YOU MOTHERFRAKKER. But. Fuck. Damn. The entire scene, from Sam finding out Leoben was in there, with him yanking Leoben away from Kara and Kara shouting at them both and then--

9. Leoben and Sam. In a scene. Where they're talking. I THINK I MIGHT HAVE JUST DIED A LITTLE AND GONE TO HEAVEN.

10. Leboen told Sam that Sam and Kara needed to work it out, that they belonged together. YOU GUYS. LEOBEN SHIPS KARA/SAM. He also nailed Sam with the line about being "more than what we are", though I don't think he knows WHY that got under Sam's skin. He just knows it worked--he tried babbling about Sam the Pyramid Star, but lost Sam--

11. Which leads me to the bit that I love. Sam is the one who brought the Cylon alliance to the table. Not Kara, not Leoben. Sam. OH FUCK. Kara is going to remember that when all hell breaks loose.

12. The random commercial interview with Trucco talking about Sam's undying love for Kara, and how his greatest fear is her finding out? OMG. I AM SO IN LOVE WITH THAT MAN. Both of them. And Kara, too.

13. OH KARA. Ok, so, many of you know that I hated the shouty stuff from the second episode. I thought it was VERY ooc for Kara, and in this episode, she's very much the Kara I remember, with the low voice and the tension and the anger and the, GODS. I loved her speech to the crew after Matthias died, even if I don't think she has the right to burden them with that. Kara, asking their forgiveness isn't what will save you, at this juncture.

But she's so driven, so frustrated--she said to Helo that it's a sound she was hearing (I've been going with some sort of feeling, some pull, but sound works, too)--and maybe that's why the Dylons are there: to provide an echo of Earth for Kara to hear.

That's why sex with Sam does it for her, because for an instant, that connection is just a little stronger.

No, I don't think Kara's a Cylon (FRAK YOU, PIKE).

14. Speaking of Helo, he was in damn fine form tonight, even though he didn't take his shirt off. Tahmoh was awesome.

15. Chief. You knew I'd come to him eventually, right? AD did an awesome job, and I totally believe that misogynistic crap he said last week never happened. Instead, he punched Adama and got demoted.

16. Oh, Baltar. I'm trying hard to care and failing.

17. Tory's back. Tsk. Apparently, the ratings were failing. But Tory herself: well, awesome. Even though most of the stuff she says is very familiar (hey, didn't D'Anna say that in the BSG comic...?)

18. ok, so, Leoben the hippy Cylon wants to lead them all to peace or whatever. And, he might not be telling the whole truth, but I bet the other touchy-feelie Cylons DO want peace or a truce of some sort. They're stranded, after all. Adrift, set to die if they can't fix their ship.

19. Yeah, New Cap. Notice, they didn't sweep it under the rug, forget it, or say it was ok?

20. The one thing I'm not happy with? Kara's whole "needing to move on" crap, that Leoben's spouting. Fuck that Ascension bullshit, man.

21. IN CLOSING. KARA AND SAM ARE DESTINED, and he will back her to the hilt and never let her go.

[identity profile] noybusiness.livejournal.com 2008-05-03 04:33 am (UTC)(link)
I like Donna a lot.

I think Matthias is only the second woman to die this season, and no men (onscreen, that is, there were several women and men on the Pyxis). I doubt her gender has anything to do with, though. What a senseless accident, at an inopportune time. Matthias was an awesome marine.

I like the direction Tory is headed in (she does seem to be channeling D'Anna's spirit), and that Galen took Baltar's hand after all that obstinence.

It was great for Sam/Kara/Leoben-ness. I was ready to draw Spike/Buffy/Angel parallels, but it doesn't work 'cause Leoben wasn't hostile to Sam in any way. If he doesn't know that Sam is an FF Cylon, he suspects it or knows that Sam has experienced some big revelation. As I said at Ragnar Anchorage, "Leoben and Sam should talk more often, they have so much in common. And Cylons are open to threesomes (especially if they involve actual Threes)." Leoben is definitely a mindscrewing bastard, but it's part of his appeal. I loved that he called Sam "another face selling magazines". I liked Sam being on recon, too. Sam is definitely some part of Kara's destiny.
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2008-05-03 04:48 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, I love Donna lots, too.

*is too gleefilled to be coherent*

[identity profile] noybusiness.livejournal.com 2008-05-03 04:54 am (UTC)(link)
I've seen episodes three and four. She's good in both, of course, particularly four. Selected quotes: "You idiot! They're born with their brains in their hands. A creature like that would have to trust anyone it meets!" "Supertemp!" "You dumbo. Great big outer space dunce!"

Faith looks to be heating up. I really loved the "face" line. It's about time they acknowledge the fact that Sam is very attractive in dialogue.
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2008-05-03 04:58 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, the face line was excellent, and I love that it acknowledges something we've speculated about, namely: that Sam was a FRAKKING CELEBRITY...

[identity profile] noybusiness.livejournal.com 2008-05-03 03:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I almost forgot this Donna quote: "I'll have a salute, please."

[identity profile] noybusiness.livejournal.com 2008-05-03 04:55 pm (UTC)(link)
There's a Sam Anders quiz and part one of a Michael Trucco video interview at Scifi.com
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2008-05-03 05:38 pm (UTC)(link)
I saw, and it makes me crack up. The last two questions were from two of the denizens of the Kara/Sam thread on Skiffy. ;]

[identity profile] noybusiness.livejournal.com 2008-05-03 06:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm sure you'd ace the quiz. Did you see the "Inside Look" with Michael Trucco during the commercial break yesterday?
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2008-05-03 06:55 pm (UTC)(link)
hahahah. My question was who was the better kisser--Katee or Rekha. Not sure that's passing...

I DID. And it made me laugh madly and love Trucco even more.

[identity profile] noybusiness.livejournal.com 2008-05-03 08:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Your question? For the video interview? I mean the Sam Anders online quiz.

[identity profile] noybusiness.livejournal.com 2008-05-04 06:47 am (UTC)(link)
You know, the online quizzes with questions from the show's history. There's one for Adama, one for Roslin, one for Baltar, one for Tory, one for Sam, one for the Colonials, and one for the Cylons. The highest score is Admiral ("You could lead the fleet to Earth")
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2008-05-04 07:17 am (UTC)(link)
ah! Yeah, I'd seen some of those. I took the Sam one and got all ten. I would have been worried, if I hadn't.

[identity profile] noybusiness.livejournal.com 2008-05-04 04:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I got all ten as well. I was a bit disappointed it wasn't as funny as the Cylons quiz (two for one prophecy day, *dies*) or Tory quiz though.

[identity profile] noybusiness.livejournal.com 2008-05-03 04:34 am (UTC)(link)
Looks like Six strikes Sam in the next episode. What's that all about?
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2008-05-03 04:49 am (UTC)(link)
Repressed rage? Sad she can't bang him?

[identity profile] noybusiness.livejournal.com 2008-05-03 04:55 am (UTC)(link)
Sibling rivalry?
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2008-05-03 04:49 am (UTC)(link)
Kara and Sam have been sharing that bunk

Yes. Yes they have been. Even if he can't get her to sleep, they totally have been.
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2008-05-03 05:13 am (UTC)(link)
HD only gets lovin' from his own hand...

I'm sure the Agathons have worked out a system--they have Anders sucker Kara out, for some sort of inspection thing, and then they use her bed...
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2008-05-03 05:22 am (UTC)(link)
I need to figure out the spelling of her name, but--

I may end up femslashing it up with her, because of the male options, there's either the men under command (which, no), Helo, Sam, Pike (idiot), Hotdog, or one other random guy... I'm thinking Sgt. M. has a bit more taste.
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2008-05-03 05:31 am (UTC)(link)
I HAD FORGOTTEN SPARKY. BAD ME.

Shit.

He might actually be able to meet Sgt. M. on common ground. That could work. Hrm.

I was thinking Seelix! Pilot or not, she's probably missing Racetrack somethin' fierce (SIXTY DAYS).
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2008-05-03 05:39 am (UTC)(link)
SHE AND DEE = TOTALLY RUNNING THE Galactica. After all, Tigh's frakkin' nuts, and Adama is spending all his time reading to Roslin, so...
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2008-05-03 05:21 am (UTC)(link)
Dude, you know Sharon's all, "Frak, Karl, you got paint in my hair again. Idiot." which he kinda finds ADORABLE...
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2008-05-03 05:38 am (UTC)(link)
I think she's got Pike as her ECO (the idiot that Helo clocks).

[identity profile] endis-ni.livejournal.com 2008-05-03 12:12 pm (UTC)(link)
That's right. Caecillius, Metella, and Quintus all came from the Cambridge Latin Course. There's not many schoolkids in the UK learn Latin these days, so this is pretty much the only course that's still going.

Metella didn't do nearly enough sitting in the hall, for my liking.

[identity profile] alryssa.livejournal.com 2008-05-03 04:39 am (UTC)(link)
I just had to go into flaily meta mode about Helo. ILU HELO. I would totally have him as my XO.



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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2008-05-03 04:49 am (UTC)(link)
HE WAS SO AWESOME.
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[identity profile] alryssa.livejournal.com 2008-05-03 04:54 am (UTC)(link)
It's kind of ironic that Athena is the one that's part of the groundroots 'mutiny', while Helo digs in his heels and says "No frakking way."
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2008-05-03 04:57 am (UTC)(link)
That is because Kara and Helo go WAY WAY WAY BACK.

RYSS. WHY do they not give us more of the Kara and Helo Caprica Road Show in Spaaaaaaaace???

And Sharon doesn't see a point in crossing Adama, because her loyalty to him is the only thing that's keeping her alive? Also, Sharon's way more practical, and doesn't see a point in trying to find Earth. Possibly.

Or, y'know, she misses Hera and is sick of this crap.

[identity profile] alryssa.livejournal.com 2008-05-03 05:04 am (UTC)(link)
I KNOW. I WANT THE KARA/HELO SPACE ROAD TRIP. It could be called, "Dude, where's my Viper?"

Also, I believe there should be a fan campaign for Shirtless Helo. Because oh my GOD that man is gorgeous under that top and dammit he needs to TAKE IT OFF. RIGHT NOW.

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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2008-05-03 05:14 am (UTC)(link)
I CAN GET BEHIND THIS CAMPAIGN. And so can Timey.

[identity profile] alryssa.livejournal.com 2008-05-03 05:24 am (UTC)(link)
I BELIEVE THIS CALLS FOR ICONS.
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2008-05-03 05:33 am (UTC)(link)
I CAN'T DECIDE WHAT THEY SHOULD SAY.
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2008-05-03 06:18 am (UTC)(link)
OH. *IS POSSIBLY HIGH ON BSG*

[identity profile] alryssa.livejournal.com 2008-05-03 06:24 am (UTC)(link)
*IS GIDDY ON BSG ALSO*
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[personal profile] zorb 2008-05-03 05:57 am (UTC)(link)
7. I loved Gaeta's little, "Yeah, you better get in there" line, whatever it was, to Sam when he got back.

8-10. So much awesome. There was a little too much lingering on Sam's "Oh shit, does he know?!?" face, but otherwise, it won at everything.
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2008-05-03 06:19 am (UTC)(link)
7. Obviously, they always send Sam in when they need to calm her down...

I have been waiting for this confrontation for OVER A YEAR. It did not disappoint, even with the added layer of final four cylonness.

[identity profile] frolicndetour.livejournal.com 2008-05-03 08:56 am (UTC)(link)
1. Why did I not see this before!

2. Whee! I like this crazy-pants better too, even though I felt like I got the earlier kind.

3. THEY ARE SO DESTINED. EVEN THE GODS CYLONS SHIP THEM!

7. I... yeah, that was hot. Not that Kara needs a guy to look out for her honor, but of course Sam would want to.

8. Yeah, ever since Kara told him what happened. *happy*

10. I was totally wondering if he knew. But yeah, that and the possibility of their being cylon divison -of course that gets through to Sam. Trucco played that scene so well!

13. KARA! And I think you might be right - the timing is too convenient for the Dylans to be unconnected to Kara's resurrection. Plus, apparently she was painting images from the Ship of Lights? Which would mean the Final 5 brought her back. Yes, I am completely hung up on this theory.

15. Totally what happened. It was all part of Tigh's hallucination.

19. Yeah, that made me SO happy. I needed that to happen if I'm going to be okay with kara/leoben (romantic or not) this season.

21. YUP YUP YUP THEY ARE AND HE WILL!
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2008-05-03 02:38 pm (UTC)(link)
1. Your goggles weren't paying attention.

2. She is endearingly crazeh now, though.

3. YES THEY DO.

7. HAH. Until you pointed it out, that wasn't even what I was thinking, but--Sam's definitely like "YOU WILL NOT TOUCH MY WIFE" at him.

10. I don't think Leoben knows. Not yet. I think when he does it's going to blow his mind in some way.

13. NO ASCENSIONS.

dammit. I need fic!

[identity profile] sabaceanbabe.livejournal.com 2008-05-03 09:08 am (UTC)(link)
Man, I need to watch this ep. *wibble*
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2008-05-03 01:29 pm (UTC)(link)
YES. And then you will join the small group of people on LJ who liked it...

[identity profile] noybusiness.livejournal.com 2008-05-04 07:02 am (UTC)(link)
About Sam and Kara being destined, I just had a scary thought for a fanfic. If Sam came to believe that his love for Kara, her miraculous rescue of him, etc. was part of the Cylon plan for her, that he existed to manipulate her in some way, that would be depressing for him. He might avoid her or think about offing himself.

Bad brain. Actually, Prolix Allie he's pondering that possibility in Prolix Allie's Double-Talk, as I recall. I have a thing for torturing pretty characters.