lyssie: (Aeryn thinks you're an idiot)
lyssie ([personal profile] lyssie) wrote2008-04-25 07:23 am

obligatory cranky early morning post

really don't wanna go to work.

also. there's that whole "women supporting other women" thing that, dude, until fandom as a whole starts supporting fictional women, I highly doubt their intentions towards real life ones.

awesome concept, though.

[identity profile] timjr.livejournal.com 2008-04-25 02:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, but that's fiction.

That's when misogyny, misandry, and incest are okay! No one real is getting hurt!
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[identity profile] timjr.livejournal.com 2008-04-25 03:38 pm (UTC)(link)
*shudder*

Yeeeah.
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2008-04-25 10:53 pm (UTC)(link)
*throws the cat at you*

[identity profile] timjr.livejournal.com 2008-04-25 10:58 pm (UTC)(link)
:D

[identity profile] chev-y.livejournal.com 2008-04-25 02:43 pm (UTC)(link)
When that day comes, women will rule the f*ckin' world. Too bad it'll never be. (as you can see I'm in a great mood myself) *g*
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2008-04-25 10:54 pm (UTC)(link)
We just, y'know, need to get, like, organized....

[identity profile] lesbiassparrow.livejournal.com 2008-04-25 03:02 pm (UTC)(link)
You misunderstand! By disliking fictional women you are fighting patriarchy. Just as you do by saying that breast fondling at cons is part of resisting The Man by letting him feel you up.
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2008-04-25 10:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Dude. You made me choke on my morning coffee.

[identity profile] rhi-silverflame.livejournal.com 2008-04-25 03:10 pm (UTC)(link)
*insert requisite daily comment about how I love you here*
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[personal profile] havocthecat 2008-04-25 03:43 pm (UTC)(link)
but I'm beginning to wonder if it's not a biological impossibility, especially for straight women.

Congratulations. You win at Evolutionary Psychology Bingo.

But you FAIL in so many other ways.
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[personal profile] havocthecat 2008-04-25 04:37 pm (UTC)(link)
I guess I have to use more italics and ALL CAPS to MAKE ALL THE SARCASM ABUNDANTLY CLEAR.

Dude, when a large portion of fandom has been up in arms about sexism and full of feminist rage for most of the week? YES, YOU DO. Especially as we are two random internet strangers to each other and have no clue about each other's sensitivities or senses of humor.
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2008-04-25 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Dude. NO HEART ATTACKS AT WORK.

(i had barely had coffee, dammit)

But, yeah, I'm thinking a lot of this is the Open Source Boobygate thing.

Which, a large fountain of links can be found here: http://www.journalfen.net/community/unfunnybusiness/9338.html

(in other news, it's cruel and unusual punishment to not be able to throw marshmallows at you for making me think Deep Thoughts before noon)

[identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com 2008-04-25 04:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, that was my reaction to the supporting thing, too. Half the posts I've read, I've wanted to comment "well, yes, I'm glad you feel strongly about this, but didn't you just post the other day about how only teenyboppers like het and hetfic sucks, and about how the only bad thing about a series was every female character in it?"

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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2008-04-25 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
I love the idea, I love it. But... If female characters, y'know, fake people who are (in some part) based on the actions of real people cause them to hate and loathe and despise, what are the real women going to cause in them?

There's a paragraph in the post about how "I might not like you, but I'll help you anyway" and that's great, it's lovely. But I don't see it actually working.

Or something like that.

Possibly, I just need some crack!tv.

[identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com 2008-04-25 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Honestly, most hate for female characters seems to be what people are too scared to say to other women, or just subconsciously not liking the female near the guys(the fact that the ones who seem to get the most hate are the ones who are most clearly a love interest) which is pretty telling.

Ithink it's one of those things that's meant in complete sincerity, but that won't happen in the long run. How long until someone goes "well, I saw her early and she was enjoying herself which him" or some such?