Fandom is still fucking stupid

[lyssie]

1. If you don't like LJ's methods, then I have a simple solution for you: delete your journal and go away.

2. No, really. This isn't like someone living in the US disliking US policy and being unable to leave the country. You can just delete your journal, close up shop, and go away.

3. Why are you still posting about the injustice? I just gave you a solution.

4. FanLib must be happy that we're ignoring them now, to defend incest.

Comments

[scarfman]

Would Starbuck or Carter delete her journal and go away?

[lyssie.livejournal.com]

Neither of them would be writing or supporting incest in the first place.

[wiliqueen.livejournal.com]

4. FanLib must be happy that we're ignoring them now, to defend incest.

Meh. I'm ignoring them because I've concluded they're silly and irrelevant.

The WfI wankapalooza, I'm staying out of because I mostly Do Not Care.

[lyssie.livejournal.com]

Honestly, fandom's reponse has been far more wanky than WFL.

[aj.livejournal.com]

*falls over laughing*

[lyssie.livejournal.com]

*sticks out tongue*

[lyssie.livejournal.com]

I'm honestly not sure WHY WFL are being called wankers, though. I do wish LJ had kept a closer look on things like incest. But that a group is targeting incest and making lj get rid of actual groups that glorify it and make it a wonderful thing?

Yeah. Not crying any tears over it.

[crantz.livejournal.com]

I'm cringing at the people who want it in the news. Fandom is just going to end up looking like NAMBLA with magic wands.

[lyssie.livejournal.com]

....because fandom doesn't already have a horrible reputation as fucked-up and morally reprehensible individuals. Great.

[ancarett]

Your approach and mine differ slightly. I look at this as a slippery slope that can extend to suspending journals based on interests that newly become questionable in Bushian America: and erotica is a big part of that. So I am moved because I see that LJ has proved that it will cave like a house of cards when it comes to user content.

And I, as a paying customer of Livejournal, am free to express my distress with the company's capricious change of its procedures with these pre-emptive suspensions. That is also a legitimate response.

Fanlib? Honestly, that doesn't bother me. I don't think it will get off the ground very well because it seems rather starved for content. Again, the market at work. People aren't choosing to use it and isn't that exactly what you're talking about in 1, 2 and 3?

[lyssie.livejournal.com]

I'm as surprised as the next person that I'm on the other side of the 'slippery slope' debate.

[jim-smith.livejournal.com]

I look at this as a slippery slope that can extend to suspending journals based on interests that newly become questionable in Bushian America: and erotica is a big part of that.

First, "Bushian America" is in decline. His approval rating is in the toilet and the conservative base is in disarray as it tries to reinvent itself for '08 and beyond. That's not to say that there won't still be moral crusaders and moral crusades, but the time for this level of histrionics was maybe the day after Super Bowl XXXVIII, not now.

Second, the problem with slippery slope arguments is that you can use them to justify anything. It's easy to paraphrase Martin Niemöller, but that doesn't mean that every single group, cause, or ideology is the first line of defense for our entire way of life, or that if we fail to defend them that we'll be next. ("First they came for the wife-beaters, and I didn't speak up because I stopped beating my wife...")

When people are actually going to jail or being denied habeus corpus over Wincest, I'll get concerned. That some person well off enough to afford a computer lost his LiveJournal account and is forced to post his trashy short stories on some other free website isn't exactly going to stir me to action, you know?

[lizardbeth-j.livejournal.com]

dude. What idiot named their comm boysfuckingboys or put pedophilia in their interests and didn't expect something like this to happen eventually? They're just lucky nobody else has officially informed LJ before this.

The Lolita one discussion one that got whacked should tell people it has nothing to do with fandom, except for those unwise enough to put incest, or child porn as an interest.

[lyssie.livejournal.com]

*snicker* I really think that post on Fandom Lawyers sums it up, in the end. LJ didn't care, until they finally poked their lawyers, who said, "uh, we could be liable".

But Fandom is Speshul, donchaknow. We are all unique little snowflakes...

[crantz.livejournal.com]

Well, apparently a credible source did report them before and got insulted for their trouble. I'm trying to figure out how the racist dominionist got them to do it and not the other group.

[centerspire.livejournal.com]

This can totally go away now. I hope it doesn't show up on AotS...

[lyssie.livejournal.com]

aots?

Sadly, it won't go away, because fandom thinks it's been stomped on. When it honestly hasn't.

Anyway. I shall post fic and stuff in a bit. To distract myself.

[arrshley.livejournal.com]

Srsly. I'm getting tired of reading all the wank that's appearing on my friends list, myself.

[lyssie.livejournal.com]

All that wank, and none of it actually good porn. *sad*

[lisacharly.livejournal.com]

And here I am still clueless about what the hell FanLib is.

*ignores the fandom*

[lyssie.livejournal.com]

Fanfiction.net for the MySpace crowd (but with corporate backing, and the attempt to make money off of them, too), mostly.

(Writing porn is a good way to ignore fandom)

[syxp.livejournal.com]

I love you.

[lyssie.livejournal.com]

Awww. *snuggles*

[nique.livejournal.com]

Yeah, people really nead to shut their fucking mouths already. YOU ARE NOT BEING PERSECUTED. LJ IS NOT EVIL FOR NOT WANTING UNDERAGED PORN/INCEST/PAEDOPHELIA ON THEIR SITE. GET OVER IT, or GET THE FUCK OUT.

[alryssa.livejournal.com]

Christ, yes.

My only problem is how SixApart's handled it, what with the total lack of actual official statements about the situation. We're averaging, what, a major crisis every couple of months? And they still cannot get their act together when shit happens. That, more than anything, is what chaps my ass. Get a fucking clue, LJ.

(ugh, incest. ICKY.)

[pretty-fits.livejournal.com]

I was wondering what my flist was bitching about.

[lyssie.livejournal.com]

They are crying wolf, basically.

I want porn. *sulks*