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lyssie ([personal profile] lyssie) wrote2007-03-07 05:26 pm

ow. I hate papercuts.

or paperburn.

1. If you blow a Highlander immortal up, is that as effective as taking their head? I mean, boom, they're dead, right?

2. Dot looks disturbingly attractive in Xena's peasant costume... She even has the boobilage for it.

3. Obviously, I need a good digital camera to take pictures of Action Figure Theatre, one of these days.

4. I need hot cocoa.

5. My headache was so bad at work today, I wanted to turn the lights out. Instead, I sat hunched, with the scarf my mother knitted me (which doubles as a shawl--this thing is frelling awesome) wrapped around my shoulder and serving as a half-decent sun visor.

6. How does work get done when my co-workers stand around talking half the day? I really don't get it.

[identity profile] wishfulaces.livejournal.com 2007-03-07 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
6. How does work get done when my co-workers stand around talking half the day? I really don't get it.

I KNOW! I don't get it either. I hardly ever have time to waste at work--I feel too guilty--and I never get anything accomplished because I have so much crap to do, whereas half the staff never seems to have anything better to do than a chat and they still get stuff accomplished. How does that work??
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2007-03-08 01:03 am (UTC)(link)
Seriously. These are the people who give me lists of thing to do. Obviously, I must be doing most of the work in the bloody office.
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2007-03-08 01:02 am (UTC)(link)
*straps a bomb to Duncan*

*watches it go off*

*inspects headless immortal*

ooops.

[identity profile] icywind.livejournal.com 2007-03-08 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
1. If you blow a Highlander immortal up, is that as effective as taking their head? I mean, boom, they're dead, right?

I believe it would depend on how well you blow said Immy up. If there are lots and lots of pieces then I would think they would be dead. But if enough of the spinal column remains attached to the head then they would possibly, eventually be able to regenerate/heal/whatever the hell you want to call it via their Quickening. It would just probably take a while I would imagine...unless total death (rather than say 'it's just a flesh wound/losing an arm) helps them heal more efficiently, but even then...

Canon seems to contradict itself (which isn't at all shocking) on how well an Immy can heal. Xavier St. Cloud lost an arm and even after a year or so it didn't regen, but we have also seen some Immortals who were burned to death - which, quite frankly, can mean a shitload of trauma to a body and a helluva lot of stuff for the Quickening to 'fix' including possible missing appendages.

I also have a hard time believing that every Immortal of a few thousand years or better could have possible made it that long without losing some part of their body no matter how good a fighter they might be so I would think they probably can regrow parts of their bodies.

So, yeah, I would say it might be just as good (not to mention probably easier) than lobbing their head off.

Er...sorry for the long drawn out comment. I'm here via various BSG comms if you are curious about why a total stranger is commenting.
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2007-03-08 01:01 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, canon contradicting itself. Happens a lot.

Thank you, because this gives me a better idea of what to do with this plotbunny.

And, dude, I like long comments with canon stuff I don't know about.

[identity profile] obsidian179.livejournal.com 2007-03-08 12:51 am (UTC)(link)
1. If you blow a Highlander immortal up, is that as effective as taking their head? I mean, boom, they're dead, right?

Well, [livejournal.com profile] icywind's comment is pretty thorough, but yeah, if the bomb blows their head off, then it's pretty much the same thing as cutting it off. I think they mainly do it the way they do in order to avoid attracting unwanted attention.

Now let me meet your question with a question of my own - If you blow up, shred/puree, vaporize, or otherwise messily kill a Time Lord, would they be able to regenerate into a new body from that? Would it use up more then one "life" in order to do it? Or would they, no matter what number life they're on, permanently die?
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2007-03-08 01:00 am (UTC)(link)
Total dissolution - a la, acid, or in the case of Arc of Infinity, being dematerialized into component molecules and scattered - seems to be unsurvivable.

Yet, we're not entirely certain what the general life-span of a time lord IS. Rassilon is older than any we know of, and if he's actually dead-dead, and not a deadish spirit hanging about for larks and giggles, I'll be shocked.

Might be something to ask on a DW comm, though. I'm just speculating, mostly.

[identity profile] redstarrobot.livejournal.com 2007-03-08 01:32 am (UTC)(link)
They also seem to treat all regenerations as sort of fragile and possibly unexpected things. The Doctor's rarely sure it's actually going to happen each time, and it always seems on the verge of going wrong. So I don't think it's as hard to kill a Timelord dead-dead as it seems, just be making the regeneration trickier than normal. (Unless, of course, they're Rassilon, because that old bastard had some massive secrets and tech he didn't share. I think "The Five Doctors" makes it pretty clear, he's only deadish.) The other thing, of course, is that regenerations are the result of advanced technology, not innate biology. They can be granted and taken away, by order of the High Council.
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[personal profile] scarfman 2007-03-09 10:23 pm (UTC)(link)

They also seem to treat all regenerations as sort of fragile and possibly unexpected things. The Doctor's rarely sure it's actually going to happen each time, and it always seems on the verge of going wrong. So I don't think it's as hard to kill a Timelord dead-dead as it seems, just be making the regeneration trickier than normal.

You don't seem to be taking into account that the Doctor isn't a normal case. His regenerations are always tricky - but he's always doing it under emergency conditions and he's the only one of them that's true of*.

We saw Romana exercise a fine control over her non-emergency regeneration aboard the TARDIS, and that's the equivalent of you or me getting, say, a haircut on a yacht. And that's nothing compared the manifestations of control of the Doctor's Teacher's regeneration (including a projection of his new body/personality that went around doing his business while he was incapacited), which was performed in a (though primitive) zero-environment, at the most leisurely pace of any regeneration we've witnessed. Even that one was self-induced and -monitored, of necessity due to the (self-)outcast lifestyle of the subject. Imagine the control that can be afforded by having it done properly in the Citadel medical bay, with your own morphologist in attendance.

We don't know what a normal regeneration is like because we've never seen one.

* Except, of course, the Master. But I'll bet the Rani wouldn't be caught regenerating on the UNIT lab floor. Or on grass.

[identity profile] daera23.livejournal.com 2007-03-08 01:38 am (UTC)(link)
try a papercut on a manilla file folder. bled like a stuck pig. damn this cold weather.
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2007-03-08 01:42 am (UTC)(link)
Right on my fingertip. I'm fairly certain there are invoices that still have blood evidence on them.
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2007-03-08 01:43 am (UTC)(link)
I want to kill people with my mind. *sulky* Also. My hot cocoa is too hot.
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2007-03-08 01:49 am (UTC)(link)
I did. It sucked them up.

*pathetic look*
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2007-03-08 02:01 am (UTC)(link)
noes. It would make me puke.

[identity profile] sjshipper.livejournal.com 2007-03-08 04:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Co-workers? Maybe there is no work. Hubby's company is very strange. He went from a real busy travel-based job, to sitting around answering phones. But he's only on call with the phones 3x a week. I have no idea what he finds to do the other two days. Sometimes nothing.

Hope the headache is better.