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lyssie ([personal profile] lyssie) wrote2007-02-18 10:08 pm
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sfw: the one with twice the Apollo in it.

Dresden: Still shiny.
Cold Case: ...I don't think I missed anything by missing the start.
BSG: Same.

Dresden.

I'm really liking this show. It doesn't pull punches, and it doesn't really talk down to you. Harry is, of course, a dork. And Murphy will one day murder him.

Cold Case.
*yawn* But, HI APOLLO. Seriously. That look he gave Johanna? SO the "OMG KARA GOT MARRIED" look. Not to mention how Upright he was.

BSG.
Well, if there's one thing I know now, it's that Ron and his crew all had horrible childhoods. As Timey said, he hid in the closet while mom and dad yelled at each other, mom threw things and got drunk, and dad suffered in silence.

I have serious issues with the fact that there isn't a single marriage in this show that doesn't have a Crazy Insane Woman Whom Her Husband Loves Anyway.

Because, obviously, strong women? Are really just crazy child abusers. Really.

Actually, enraged might be more like it.

Next week, of course, appears to be that episode of Babylon Five when Sinclair had to figure out how to keep his people working and get more money out of Earth.

But with less plot consistency.

[identity profile] greycoupon.livejournal.com 2007-02-19 04:24 am (UTC)(link)
Ya know, Helo and Sharon actually have a healthy marriage.

It's rather ironic.
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2007-02-19 04:25 am (UTC)(link)
But she only wants him for his magical hero sperms.

*runs*

[identity profile] circe.livejournal.com 2007-02-19 07:04 am (UTC)(link)
I will take that magical hero/helo sperm any night LOL

[identity profile] nexstarman.livejournal.com 2007-02-19 04:27 am (UTC)(link)
Nargh... see, I missed BSG completely this time.

I think it gets repeated tomorrow or something.
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2007-02-19 04:29 am (UTC)(link)
It's on again in half an hour, too. But, yes, sometime tomorrow night.

[identity profile] nexstarman.livejournal.com 2007-02-19 04:58 am (UTC)(link)
I dunno, maybe it peaked with Exodus Part 2.
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2007-02-19 05:30 am (UTC)(link)
It's never been building to a peak. It's just been occasionally entertaining.

[identity profile] lizardbeth-j.livejournal.com 2007-02-19 04:49 am (UTC)(link)
'By Any Means Necessary.' mmm. I liked that one. I'm already afrad of the BSG version and I haven't even watched tonight's bonanza.

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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2007-02-19 04:58 am (UTC)(link)
You haven't missed much.

And I think that was the episode where I was like, "...very Star Trek, but omg Sinclair rocks, yay!" Season one = not the best thing ever. Season three, otoh... well, let's just say that, unlike BSG, season three was better.

[identity profile] lizardbeth-j.livejournal.com 2007-02-19 05:50 am (UTC)(link)
Season 3 was the best, dude. Season one was...er, uneven? but yes, me = Big giant huge Sinclair fan. Me and four other people, heh. I remember the boards were all "Sheridan,Sheridan, yay"!. And I was all I'm sorry Sinclair's gone. *sniff* Not that I hated Sheridan, but I didn't find him as fic-able for whatever reason.
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2007-02-19 05:56 am (UTC)(link)
Sinclair was awesome. Sheridan was awesome, too. But there was something a little more cut-throat about Sinclair from the beginning. B5 is the only show I allow to get away with the Destiny shit. Because they did it well, rather than crappily.

I... kinda want Sinclair and Anders fic, now. With Kara and Susan bonding over flying. Hrm.

...ooh.

[identity profile] lizardbeth-j.livejournal.com 2007-02-19 06:26 am (UTC)(link)
OMG Sinclair and Anders! I could totally get behind that. YES! I could do that, in fact. It's very very tempting... (you are an evil purveyor of the plotbunny, you know) Anders has that hard practicality as well, and I think they'd take to each other. Anders really needs someone to talk to - a coach, in essence.

Because yes, the reason I loved Sinclair was that he was so entirely principled, but to his OWN principles. When shit got in the way of his principles or threatened people under his protection, he took it out of the way, no hesitation or much regard to the 'rules'. I also feel that he was far more interested in individual people -- that whole mess of Lyta being ignored and unappreciated? Would never have happened under Sinclair. Sheridan was all about what people could bring to him and the strategy. Which, for a general was incredibly useful, but neglectful of people *as* people and bred resentment in his followers (see also Garibaldi).

er. um. clearly I've thought about this before. *g*


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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2007-02-19 06:29 am (UTC)(link)
I HOPE YOU'RE HAPPY, MISSY.

..even if it's not exactly Sinclair.
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2007-02-19 06:29 am (UTC)(link)
ps. will have more thinky thoughts after bed, zomg. late.
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2007-02-19 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, well, I vote you get the other side of the coin in this crossover plotbunny madness. You can write Anders and Sinclair during Jeff's year at B5.

He was! He had that Own Code thing that Sam has (YES I HAVE A TYPE). Gah. The Lyta and Garibaldi things make me... cranky, in the ways that some of the Kara/Lee pastede on stuff does. Mostly because the Garibaldi arc felt so terribly similar to Doc's stuff from the year before.

Although the tension between him and Sheridan DID work for me. Just not the whole OMG I FIND MYSELF NOW stuff.

(this would be why Farscape still is at the top of my list, really. Though B5 is, like, 2nd or 3rd, depending on how I'm feeling about Doctor Who and Blake's 7 at the time).

And the Lyta stuff. It would probably help if I gave a crap about the telepaths (I'm sorry, Bester). Or thought that,um, Mary Sue Martyr Boy had had any potential.. BYRON. That's his name. God, I wanted him dead. (it was like Jammer, man. My wish was granted! *g*)

In the end, a large part of the constant (in B5 and BSG) stuff about "OMG people are different, and people are SCARED of those differences and THERE IS PREJUDICE and they Fight To Save Them in a World That Hates and Fears Them!" is, ah, too much like oldskool X-Men, and, dude, I have been there and done that for thirteen years. Less with the prejudice and allegories and more with the EXPLODING THINGS, dammit!

[identity profile] lizardbeth-j.livejournal.com 2007-02-20 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
(e-mailed back, just now) Okay, I shall attempt some sort of small x-over, though, as I mentioned, 'small crossover' is sort of an oxymoron with me...

huh, you're right. Y'know, maybe that's the real reason I didn't get into BSG fanfic until Anders showed up. I had been thinking maybe it was the same thing as my Farscape-lack-of-fic -- source doesn't need fic-spackle sort of thing. But it could also be that I only commit to ficcing for something when MY TYPE shows up. B5 I got lucky because Sinclair was there from the get-go (tho' OMG WWE was my source bonanza, so MUCH to commit fic with there). But Crichton's not that sort of hero. This also neatly explains my deal with Cyclops (which I have written, but lo many years ago now), Will from PotC, and Markus Alexander from Jeremiah (who is Sinclair in different clothes). Heh, Anders is the least Broody Byronic Hero Type of them all, I must be branching out...

Ah, see the Garibaldi, Franklin, and Lyta things in general (more her S.3/4 stuff, not the S.5 crap) all worked for me *because* they were fundamentally the same -- Sheridan ignored them and they ended up turning on him (Franklin less so, but that's because someone else rescued him). I have a long WWE AU when Sinclair doesn't go back, and first frakkin thing he does is go find Stephen, appalled that everyone on the station is letting him go get himself killed.

But WORD on Byron. Was S.5 not the most boring season of t.v. practically ever? god, after all the wank from CC leaving, I could barely watch it as it was, and then it was so dull...

Blowing shit up is always a plus, yes.
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2007-02-20 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
I'm beginning to wonder if the real reason I've not bothered watching the last four episodes is because s5 bored me, actually.

And, see, I like it when characters actually learn from things--and the Garibaldi arc kinda showed that Sheridan didn't and wouldn't ever. And that made me cranky. (see also my irritation with Mercedes Lackey characters, Lee Adama and his manpain....)

Heheh. Suddenly, your love of Anders is 'splained! Dude. You wrote Cyke fic? Where is it?

[identity profile] lizardbeth-j.livejournal.com 2007-02-20 04:52 am (UTC)(link)
You didn't watch the B5 finale? It's very different than the rest of S.5. It's the epilogue, basically. I couldn't tell you if the other last three are worth it though, since I don't remember them at all.*g*

B5 nattering is in e-mail.

Yes, I wrote Cyke fic. only three stories that ever got finished and posted. They're a bit more purple than my style now (it was, um, eight? years ago. At least.) But here, if you want to take a gander: here (http://www.geocities.com/lizardbeths_tale/comics.html)




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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2007-02-21 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
I have the last four episodes, because, if I watch them, I have no more new B5 to watch. And then there would be a sadface from me.

*checks something*

Damn. I think you hit comicfic after I stopped reading extensively. Mwahahaha (I bet your email is not on msn.com anymore, I'd say you should email Lise to have it changed, but I don't think anyone's updating the Itty Bitty Archives anymore). *pokes Itty Bitty Archives with glee*

Dude. The Marvel office one is hysterical. Now I'm kinda wishing they'd do that to current editors. Wolvie could point out there's not three thousand clones of him (OMG. LOGAN'S A CYLON).

[identity profile] lizardbeth-j.livejournal.com 2007-02-21 04:36 am (UTC)(link)
well, there will be actual, shiny new B5 in the not too distant future, so you might want to catch up a trifle.*g*

oh, the IBA's. *sniffle* them's was the days...

Hee! Thanks. I remember being so pissed by that one-shot -- of course, little did I know that so much of what it twisted about the X-Men would turn out to be canon in a few short years. irony much. and yeah, I'd certainly love for Cyke to storm Marvel and demand of Quesada WTF he's done to Cyclops, but a lot of fanboys seem to like it, so ... whatever. Not me.

Logan the Cylon! That would explain SO MUCH!
(and jean too come to think about it.)

[identity profile] timjr.livejournal.com 2007-02-19 04:53 am (UTC)(link)
Because, obviously, strong women? Are really just crazy child abusers. Really.

O.O

...please tell me this isn't about my poor, abused girl.
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2007-02-19 04:57 am (UTC)(link)
No. It's Mama Adama. And Kara's mother. And Kara. Oh, and Dee, because she yelled at Lee. And Racetrack's a bitch, so is Seelix and Jean and, gosh, Mom throws people out airlocks.

Cally is probably also included, but I missed the beginning.

I kind of fucking hate Ron and his ideas on women.

[identity profile] timjr.livejournal.com 2007-02-19 05:01 am (UTC)(link)
...

Wow. I totally agree. (And yeah, Cally would fall into this category based on her behavior in 'Resistance' and 'Precipice', not to mention that cut scene from 'Flight of the Phoenix')

[identity profile] pretty-fits.livejournal.com 2007-02-19 07:26 am (UTC)(link)
I liked this episode, nice to finally know what Apollo's mother was like. Everybody is getting Head whatevers now. LOL@ Dad for wanting to give Baltar back to the Cylons.

Mom and Dad were pretty cute. A bit disappointed they didn't kiss again.

The scene in the Ready room was hilarious. Poor Hotdog. When Apollo dresses down his pilots, he really dresses them down. And Starbuck being snarky about his speech. I also like how Dee opened his package, so nosy.=P

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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2007-02-19 01:09 pm (UTC)(link)
That's that horrible episode that I blocked most of it out, and fastforwarded through a lot, isn't it... Ron isn't just stealing from B5, he's stealing from season ONE... that's sad.

It's kind of like watching Buffy, in a way. You get to see the writers' issues suddenly splash themselves painfully and annoyingly across your tv.

[identity profile] centerspire.livejournal.com 2007-02-19 11:26 am (UTC)(link)
What happened at the end of Cold Case? I switched to skiffy.

DUDE HE WAS TOTALLY LEE IN 1981!
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2007-02-19 01:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Johanna did. And Apollo was going to tell on everyone.

[identity profile] centerspire.livejournal.com 2007-02-19 08:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Wait. What? She blew herself up? To have him keep the secret? Or she meant to be out of the house before it blew? OR she was out of the house and living a secret life? Or was Johanna the glasses wearing hippie?
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2007-02-19 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Johanna blew him up, and the other chick, and then stole the other chick's life. It was so Very Dramatic and shit. Really.

[identity profile] centerspire.livejournal.com 2007-02-20 01:59 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, of course, because they used "looked so much alike." Well, so sorry I didn't watch to the end. Really.
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2007-02-21 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
*giggles*