lyssie: (Dee)
lyssie ([personal profile] lyssie) wrote2007-02-02 08:52 pm

BSG meta, again. Dee!

Actually, it's just a list. [livejournal.com profile] crankygrrl asked me why I liked Dee, and I started listing and then ended up filling out the alphabet. Thus, a seperate post. Anyone is free to add more reasons why she is awesome.
Spoilers through Taking a Break, most likely.

Why love Dee?

A. She's a chick. Anyone who's been around here for long is going to notice my fascination for girls, especially female characters in SF.
B. She's hot.
C. She's very matter of fact and direct.
D. She's a technician, not a pilot, but she still knows her shit (she put together Chief's comms systems for the blackbird), and can solder and do whatever's required. And pilot, with coaching.
E. When Adama asked to see her, looking for counsel, she gave it. She knew she could end up busted down and given the crap shifts for it, but she said it anyway.
F. She does her job. When they organized the communication posts on the algea planet, she opted, as the most experienced comms officer, to take the furthest point. When Lee ordered her and Fischer to rescue Kara, she did. She also didn't try to lie about how easy it would be. She didn't know if it was possible, but she didn't know that it wasn't, either.
G. This is personal fanon, but as far as I'm concerned, if you want anything done on the big G, you go to Gaeta or Dee. They know where shit is. I am personally convinced she's the one who got Starbuck into a dress, and also provided dresses for half the women in Colonial Day.
H. She's a good woman, trying to keep her marriage. Who, sadly, decided that she loved the idiot even if he didn't love her.
I. Fandom hates her. This is like dangling a carrot in front of me (there are exceptions to this rule: please see Diana Fowley of X-Files fame and Anise of SG-1 fame). A lot of the hate tends to come from Kara/Lee shippers because she gets in the way of their Vast and Abiding True Grand Passionate Love of the Ages.
J. She's not loud and flashy, but she has substance. I like having her on my tv.
K. She helped foment rebellion, and get Roslin off the big G. Back when we thought Tigh might have her shot.
L. She's a member of CIC, and I love the secondary support characters like mad, sadly, we get very little of them.
M. She was awesome in '33', despite losing the one ship. That was lost on purpose, anyway. She had to suck it up and move on, and she did it. A lesser officer wouldn't have cared, or would have folded and asked to be taken off duty.
N. She has a really beautiful smile.
O. When she gives her loyalty, she doesn't take it back. It remains, constant.
P. Valley of Darkness--one of the things I remember most, is her being found, all out of it and slightly broken.
Q. She's not afraid to speak her mind--kinda covered before, but VoD reminded me of her arguing about Zarek with Billy in Bastille DAy. And that was awesome.
R. Her dealings with Kara--she shuts her down during the briefing (and, I suspect part of it was that she was running the briefing by the book, expecting problems from Starbuck. Which she got.). And slapping Kara, during the raptor mission--which could be read as personal, but really felt more like she was doing her job. She's trying to save their asses, and Kara is rambling and falling asleep. So she hits her.
S. Speaking of which, she looks really sexy covered in dirt and sweat.
T. She is not perfect. She has her moments of insecurity, and lashing out at people (at Billy in VoD, and being unable to straight-out bitchslap Lee over the last several).
U. If she has another fault, she's too generous with herself--she puts up with Lee not being there, with Lee loving Kara.
V. She's grown, she's no longer the innocent little girl who smiled at Billy and then impetuously kissed him 'cause he was alive in the mini. She's a woman, with responsibilities and a life, and things she wants to accomplish.
W. She has a family that's been mentioned, although she was estranged, at the time of the attacks.
X. Doesn't take shit from anybody. Not even her husband (once she's hit the boiling point).
Y. Even though she wasn't entirely honest with Billy, she still tried not to lead him on--and she wasn't certain enough, either way. And I can respect that.
Z. She is the lifeline between the pilots and the CIC, and she does it well. She doesn't panic, not until it's over and she can cry into her coffee. (probably. I don't think we've seen her have a moment to do so)
AA. She is pocket-sized and muscley for my convenience.

ETA: OMG. I FORGOT THEBEST BIT: SHE HELPED RIG THE ELECTION.
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[identity profile] aj.livejournal.com 2007-02-03 03:10 am (UTC)(link)
Dude. I love Dee. And really? I am the BIGGEST BILLY FANGIRL ON THE PLANET. If I have no rage for her? Everyone else should stfu and SIT DOWN.
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2007-02-03 03:25 am (UTC)(link)
THIS IS QUITE TRUE.

ext_18985: (shatupon)

[identity profile] aj.livejournal.com 2007-02-03 03:36 am (UTC)(link)
I mean, my obsession with him is WELL DOCUMENTED. *cuddles him* He is a good minion.

[identity profile] sabaceanbabe.livejournal.com 2007-02-03 03:58 am (UTC)(link)
Word.

Alas, I have neither a Billy nor a Dee icon.
ext_18985: (booze)

[identity profile] aj.livejournal.com 2007-02-03 04:00 am (UTC)(link)
WOE!!!! SADNESS. Um. I have no Dee icon. Hrm. This is a lack.
ext_18106: (Billy pirate)

[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2007-02-03 04:38 am (UTC)(link)
This is quite sad. (even though I did have to make Dee icons, just so I could make this post)

[identity profile] sabaceanbabe.livejournal.com 2007-02-03 04:44 am (UTC)(link)
Hmm. Perhaps I shall have to make screencaps of Dee so that I can icon those eyes...
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2007-02-03 04:33 am (UTC)(link)
I handwave it. BSG's writers continue to fall down with knowing what to do with Lee (Kara is Ron's Mary Sue, Lee is just her boytoy), and he gets shoved here, there and everywhere. So Dee follows suit, once she's tied to him.

Dee being a cylon is... Well, I'd like it more if I'd seen fic with her as a cylon that wasn't "Let's kill the Evil Bitch" about it.
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2007-02-03 03:26 pm (UTC)(link)
In the same way that Kitty Pryde is Chris Clairmont's and Buffy Summers is Joss Whedon's...

NOT anti-Dee as cylon fic pimpage

[identity profile] millari.livejournal.com 2008-02-03 09:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, I'd like it more if I'd seen fic with her as a cylon that wasn't "Let's kill the Evil Bitch" about it.

If you have never seen this fic, you should read it. It's told from Gaeta's POV, but there is so much wonderful, amazing Dee in it, IMO. Both Gaeta and Dee are Cylons, and they are not evil at all. They're lost, and it's just lyrically beautiful.

"Lost and Found" (two parts) can be found at:
Part 1: http://community.livejournal.com/cerebel_fics/29111.html

Part 2: http://community.livejournal.com/cerebel_fics/29270.html
ext_18106: (Dee Eddies in the dust)

Re: NOT anti-Dee as cylon fic pimpage

[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2008-02-05 04:55 am (UTC)(link)
*belatedly* Thank you for the links, I'm behind in actually reading things, sadly. =)

[identity profile] sabaceanbabe.livejournal.com 2007-02-03 03:59 am (UTC)(link)
Dee is efficient and no-nonsense and snarky and smart and sexy and she has the most incredible eyes. OMG.

[identity profile] mrushgdi.livejournal.com 2007-02-03 05:39 am (UTC)(link)
I dont get it. I dont hate Dee, but she suffers from the worst thing EVER for a character: She's completely boring. I cant say this makes me like her much either.
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2007-02-04 05:31 am (UTC)(link)
Your mileage may vary.

[identity profile] hyari.livejournal.com 2007-02-03 06:10 am (UTC)(link)
Your list has spoilers so I had to skip over it, but yes, for the record. I totally love Dee. She's the only one who seemed really real, since the miniseries. You know, being a little mean to Billy when he walked into the bathroom, and then having to face everything... And man, who *didn't* think to themselves, "She'll make a great officer someday" when you saw her help rig the election? :)

I need Dee icons too.
ext_18106: (Dee)

[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2007-02-03 06:19 am (UTC)(link)
OMG I CANNOT BELIEVE I FORGOT THE ELECTION.

HYARE, I AM A BAD FANGIRL.

But she is hot when she's all dusty.

[identity profile] hyari.livejournal.com 2007-02-06 08:09 pm (UTC)(link)
OMG I CANNOT BELIEVE I FORGOT THE ELECTION.
I know! When she was all "GIMME THOSE BALLOTS!" and the marines were all "HUH?" and also they were all HUGE and TALL and she was teeny tiny in front of them and she was still all, "We'll take those from here!" and I wanted to yell, "TAKE *ME* FROM HERE, DEE, TAKE *ME*!!!!"

But she is hot when she's all dusty.
OMGZ! Yes, in eye of jupiter they were ALL SO PRETTY. DAMN

[identity profile] pretty-fits.livejournal.com 2007-02-03 08:14 am (UTC)(link)
I don't find Dee boring at all, I want more Dee on my tv screen! I agree with your list wholeheartedly, Lyssie.
ext_18106: (Dee)

[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2007-02-03 03:27 pm (UTC)(link)
yay! =)

[identity profile] centerspire.livejournal.com 2007-02-03 11:24 am (UTC)(link)
She's got some fantastic eyes and the patience of Job (she hasn't physically harmed Lee since EoJ, which is more than I can say if I was her.)
ext_18106: (Dee)

[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2007-02-03 03:28 pm (UTC)(link)
she has really nice arms, too...
ext_962: (sam-black t shirt)

[identity profile] surreallis.livejournal.com 2007-02-03 03:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Good list. Plus, she actually DID end it with Lee when he became just too ridiculous. Or, at least, it became an ultimatum. Be a part of this marriage or get your ass OUT. If they go back on that now and make her tolerant of his antics, I'll be very disappointed, although I have no reason to believe they will. (I think that feeling is just leftover from Stargate.)

Amen on I. While this isn't the reason I love Sam Carter, it probably fuels the ferocity of my love. She's in your OTP, ruinin' your squee? TOO DAMN BAD.
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2007-02-03 03:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Stargate... it makes us all cynical.

*nods* Nor me, either, but it helps. Dear god, it helps. *uses appropriate icon*
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[personal profile] scarfman 2007-02-03 05:30 pm (UTC)(link)

You're right on with R.

[identity profile] thirdblindmouse.livejournal.com 2007-02-03 08:39 pm (UTC)(link)
For me it comes down to the fact that she is a very competent officer who doesn't let personal feelings get in the way of doing her job. Actually, the first of those two is all I need -- the second is a bonus.

I like her less for romance w/Lee. Romance with Lee is a very bad thing for both Dee and Kara, and the only person who has managed it without it warping her character is Roslin.

This is why I have come to hate Lee. (Also, the adultery. Also, the angst.)

Take Lee out of the picture, and you get scenes like the one with Dee in the raptor OMGsofullofsquee!
ext_18106: (Attacked!)

[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2007-02-04 05:32 am (UTC)(link)
So if Lee weighs as much as a duck, can we burn him at the stake? (I'm too tired to respond coherently)

[identity profile] dingoaction.livejournal.com 2007-02-07 02:22 am (UTC)(link)
WORD. To all of it.

I've been saving this to read 'cause I knew it'd be chock full of straight to the point excellence (and I wanted time to enjoy it).

Dee rocks, and this is why.
ext_18106: (Dee)

[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2007-02-07 04:16 am (UTC)(link)
Yay! *dances around* (it is late and my brain is all fried)

[identity profile] stuck-in-cic.livejournal.com 2007-02-11 06:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow. Just WOW. I love this list and may I direct people to it using this journal? It's for [livejournal.com profile] theatrical_muse where one writes topics in character voice. This just happens to be Dee's. :)

You covered everything that I've never been able to articulate. Way to go. :D
ext_18106: (Dee)

[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2007-02-11 06:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Sure! I'm always fond of spreading the Dee love. =)

[identity profile] stuck-in-cic.livejournal.com 2007-02-11 06:35 pm (UTC)(link)
:D Thanks! I'm currently reading over here (http://lyssie.livejournal.com/991368.html), too. It's fantastic.
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2007-02-12 01:58 am (UTC)(link)
Cool. And yay, for more Dee-love! =)