lyssie: (Ripley - gun otp)
lyssie ([personal profile] lyssie) wrote2005-05-12 11:17 am

urge to kill rising

VERY fast.

Dear list: Yes. Sam Carter is a Mary Sue. And so are the other three members of SG-1, you fuckheads.

eta: I give up. *bangs head on keyboard* Technology is trying to kill me with embarrassment.

[identity profile] jacksrubberduck.livejournal.com 2005-05-12 04:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow great minds.

I was sat here reading that thread thinking 'but Daniel's a Mary-Sue, Jonas is probably a Mary-Sue, Jack's the anti-hero variety of Mary-Sue and Teal'c is, when you think about it, also a Mary-Sue'.

In fact there is probably evidence to suggest every character ever in the history of television, film, theatre and literature is in fact a Mary-Sue.
ext_18106: (Sam - Girl with a gun)

[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2005-05-12 04:25 pm (UTC)(link)
And Sam has no flaws?

Uh-huh. That's why she was so repressed and stopped listening to her instincts, and continued to be engaged to Pete (no offence the Pete, but COME ON).

Does anyone remember the chip she had on her shoulder in the beginning? How about her uncertainty about command in the early seasons?

ARG.

*tears out hair*

[identity profile] musicforcylons.livejournal.com 2005-05-12 04:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Oooo, does this mean we get to hear stories about Daniel with ass-length silver hair, Teal'c with violet orbs, and Jack with a replicator-stopping dog now?

*runs*

[identity profile] lytarules.livejournal.com 2005-05-12 04:31 pm (UTC)(link)
OOOOOOo! Write it!!!!!!

[identity profile] nakedtoes.livejournal.com 2005-05-12 04:33 pm (UTC)(link)
*cuddles* I could feel you seething across the Atlantic when I read that post! Yup, they all are, because if they were boring or untalented and got themselves killed, it would be a pretty crappy show. Yay lots of funeral episodes yay!

[identity profile] jacksrubberduck.livejournal.com 2005-05-12 04:35 pm (UTC)(link)
::pats you::

Have to agree with you there.
Sam is very much emotionally repressed, fucked up and does a great line in denial.

And that whole 'reproductive organs' line should be considered a character flaw in itself.

But because she is a woman being good at anything *and* at the same time having the cheek to be gorgeous she is therefore bad and wrong.

[identity profile] lytarules.livejournal.com 2005-05-12 04:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Lyss, hon, nomail is goodmail. The NC17 list is wankier than the big list nowadays. It's mostly good for elevating extremely low blood pressure.

*pets you*

[identity profile] splash-the-cat.livejournal.com 2005-05-12 04:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Lyssie, I get the irritation, but you're over-reacting on this one. That post was in no way a negative protrayal of Sam's Mary Sue-ness, was in no way implying that Mary-Sueness was exclusive to Sam.

ext_18106: (Kitty - That's what..)

[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2005-05-12 04:50 pm (UTC)(link)
...it wasn't? I missed the smug wording, then?

[identity profile] splash-the-cat.livejournal.com 2005-05-12 04:53 pm (UTC)(link)
We read it differently then. But I didn't see it as smug or negative.
ext_18106: (Opus - java)

[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2005-05-12 05:09 pm (UTC)(link)
....That's a disturbing thought.
ext_18106: (Kitty Pete java love)

[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2005-05-12 05:10 pm (UTC)(link)
*snerk* Especially if you apply the Mary Sue test to season one. Season one? Daniel and Jack are the Mary Sues, with Teal'c and Sam tying at second.

[identity profile] kataclysmic.livejournal.com 2005-05-12 05:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Daniel's not a Mary-Sue!!!!!!!1111111 He's too perfect to be a a Mary-Sue!!11shift!111eleven!!! How could you even think that?????????///
ext_18106: (Default)

[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2005-05-12 05:13 pm (UTC)(link)
*stares at list* oh buggerfuckshit.

*goes off to corner and just gibbers*

[identity profile] nakedtoes.livejournal.com 2005-05-12 05:16 pm (UTC)(link)
*cuddles more* Erm, people might not get that far down? *decides cuddles won't cut it and offers tequila*

On the positive side, you might not have to listen to the wank any more?
ext_18106: (Jo - it's the job)

[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2005-05-12 05:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I suspect it's half hot-button, half the wording. It read as one of those sly, "We're not *really* being offensive *wink-wink*" kind of articles.

*sigh*

*goes to kill herself in supplication*

[identity profile] antikythera.livejournal.com 2005-05-12 05:19 pm (UTC)(link)
*imagines Teal'c with giant purple anime girly-eyes*
ext_18106: (Default)

[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2005-05-12 05:20 pm (UTC)(link)
No. I love you, darling, just don't kill me. I posted the entire open file of text, rather than just the section I'd copied (I double-checked, that was all that was highlighted), which means I've also just posted your story, a ton of icon links, Nos' and my conversation re: the list, AND my answers to the MS questions.

Which, after all of the previous, most people probably won't read.

*bangs head*

[identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com 2005-05-12 05:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I *knew* she was really an embodiment of Robert Cooper! Knew it! It all comes down to the fact that everyone secretly wants to do RDA!
ext_18106: (Opus - java)

[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2005-05-12 05:25 pm (UTC)(link)
*dies* *resurrects as zombie* *commits seppuku*

[identity profile] nakedtoes.livejournal.com 2005-05-12 05:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Sweetie, don't worry - I assumed that something had gone wrong and it wasn't deliberate. These things happen - it's just particularly unfortunate that the list conversation was in there *crosses fingers that the mods won't freak*. As I said, with any luck people will think 'wtf?', get bored of scrolling down and not get to that bit.

And hey, you shut the list up for a bit - that's got to be worth something, right?

*sends more tequila, b/c numbness is good at times like this*
ext_18106: (Jo - it's the job)

[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2005-05-12 05:35 pm (UTC)(link)
About the only consolation I have is that if I'd pasted the questions into the crap.txt file, the list would have been spammed with more thank 100k.

*clings*

As long as you and Nos' don't disown me.
ext_18106: (Jill RE:A - While my sky)

[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2005-05-12 05:37 pm (UTC)(link)
I should not have gotten out of bed this morning. I knew it was going to be a bad day.

[identity profile] lavidaessueno.livejournal.com 2005-05-12 05:39 pm (UTC)(link)
It seems today is a banner day for unintentionally sending things to mailing lists. I did a bit of an oopsie myself earlier.

*sharpens sword and prepares to fall*

[identity profile] fallenbelle.livejournal.com 2005-05-12 05:47 pm (UTC)(link)
*offers sake* 'cos you can't commit ritual suicide without the ritual rice wine.

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