Awww.

[lyssie]

Look. Debate. And ignorance.

http://sjnc17.stargate-brats.net/reviews.php?sid=521&a=1

(actually, I'm thinking I need a "Bitch, please" icon to deal with Telkena)

eta: And. She has fans. It's scary.

Ahem.

Dear Feminists who ranted about the depiction of women in Sin City. Get your panties out of their twist and GO AFTER AUTHORS LIKE TELKENA, who is doing nothing but raping canon, her characters, and portraying Sam Carter as a woman who likes to be abused and raped.

kthnxbai.

Comments

[thatpalebluedot.livejournal.com]

re: icon

With what on it? I need to do something creative to clean out all the icky tax residue my brain's full of now.

Numbers. I have NUMBERS in my head. *whimper*

[ilanala]

You want CANNON???

Yes, to shoot you in the head with. (Or else she can go out the airlock with the rest of the nutcases.)

Why is it that some people don't seem to understand that fiction is still supposed to be plausible, and fanfic is supposed to be at least based off of canon?

[lyssie.livejournal.com]

Hrm. Dunno. I'm kinda partial to any female character looking irritated, maybe with an eyebrow raised... Oo. Hrm.

[stexgirl2000.livejournal.com]

:headdesk:

Okay, this is why I hate "happy" rape-fic, het or slash. The cluelessness and utter stupidity of said authors is just horrifying. (And that goes for published writers as well as fanfic writers.)

"Oh he raped me but I love him and we will live happily ever after fic" is just wrong, wrong, wrong.

Grrrrrrrr...

[lyssie.livejournal.com]

See, that just... Dude. HOW did she escape from the mental ward?

[stexgirl2000.livejournal.com]

Wha?

No fucking way.

Then again, I have LJ friends who work/worked for the APA, and hoo boy, they have a ton of wacky customer service stories...

So it could be true.

[nakedtoes.livejournal.com]

Wow. That's... wow.

What do you say to someone who enjoys being flamed because then she gets to have a really big number of reviews showing for her fic?

[redstarrobot.livejournal.com]

That's an advanced medical degree, I dunno. Not the easiest thing in the world to get. And there's no way, if she were, that she'd view rape as just "a bad affair" that wouldn't put a woman off a man. Victim mentality is a form of mental illness. If she were a psychiatrist, she'd be treating people who'd been abused and raped, and she sure as hell wouldn't be saying "Don't give up on him if you love him, that's okay, then".

See, stupid people claiming to be psychiatrists are part of why the field has a bad reputation.

[rosewildeirish.livejournal.com]

Psychologist I can buy. I've known a few of them, and they either genuinely feel a call to help people, or omfg, they need help themselves, badly, and got into the profession that way.

[nakedtoes.livejournal.com]

I emailed her once with some spelling corrections (everytime I see 'loose' for 'lose' I want to scream), and she told English isn't her first language. *shrugs*

[nakedtoes.livejournal.com]

And that's just what we're doing. (Or, I am, at least) Go figure

[lyssie.livejournal.com]

Which, honestly, makes sense... There's phrasing she uses that points to it (although I thought she'd said once that english was her first language. Hrm... oh well)

[auralan.livejournal.com]

I'd normally suggest professional help, but psychiatrists are usually already getting that to help them deal with being a psychiatrist.

A healthy dose of "Bitch, please" does seem in order.

[nakedtoes.livejournal.com]

Totally. She needs a good, English-speaking beta, though that's probably not enough, but at least her writing would flow a bit more smoothly. Um, it always helps

[surreallis.livejournal.com]

omg, that's hilarious and so very alarming.

She basically told Splash that it was okay for Jack to abuse Sam because he loves her, whereas it wasn't okay for Pete because he... doesn't? And you know, Sam *hurt* Jack just as much as he hurt her, so it's even now. Jesus.

[redstarrobot.livejournal.com]

Literary genius can get away with anything. I doubt she is one.

Ignoring canon for less than literary genius is bad.

Saying "But I SAID they were OOC!" doesn't make the fic better; it's excusing bad characterization. If you really, really have to, and you're not a literary genius, do a Mirror Universe fic. It's not like they aren't canon in SGworld.

But none of those are the worst things in the world. A good writer can twist canon and make it dance the way she tells it. A mediocre or bad writer can't. It's just a failed literary attempt.

Portraying rape as part of an OTP true-love relationship is contributing to the societal myths that women secretly enjoy rape and it doesn't really hurt them, and that rape is about sex and love instead of violence and dominance. That, at a minimum, a borderline misogynist action, and a severely misogynist viewpoint.

Odds are a fair number of her readers will be date-raped; a fair number of women are, on average. How many of them will feel like they're able to report it, and how many will somewhat uncomfortably try to shove it away with "Well, he must have really wanted me, I guess... if he cares that much, I guess he didn't do anything wrong."

And it's okay because she says she's a psychiatrist? That's the worst part.

[lytarules.livejournal.com]

TELKENA IS A PSYCHIATRIST?

When I read that I burst out laughing. Oh, Telkena? LIAR, LIAR, PANTS ON FIRE!!!

*clears throat and grows up again*

Most psychiatrists have *some* clue about the effects of sexual assault...

A psychiatrist's receptionist, maybe.

[rosewildeirish.livejournal.com]

Love the defensive reviewer who said you can't "speek" {sic} for everyone.

I know I can't!

[redstarrobot.livejournal.com]

And she's a psychiatrist, so she knows, apparently... although she apparently hates to bring her professional authority into the argument, to tell us we know nothing. Now how much more frightening is it?

[lyssie.livejournal.com]

Which was the thing Splash was bothered by from the start.

sigh.

(pleasecanIkillherwithmymind?)

[rosewildeirish.livejournal.com]

Robert Frost!!!

*squeeeeeeeeee!*

Erm. *returns to discussion*

[thatpalebluedot.livejournal.com]

Yah. No way. No way whatsoever. Perhaps psychologist, but only in the sense of MAYBE having graduated with a Bachelor's degree in psychology. Not in the sense of in ANY way being a licensed psych, let alone a pscyhatrist with a medical degree.

In my oh, so, very official, social worker opinion.

(And I AM a social worker. With a Master's Degree in Social Work. Easily googlable and verifiable.)

*goes to make Lyssie an icon*

[surreallis.livejournal.com]

There are no words to describe the horror. That has to be a fantasy made up in her own head.

[surreallis.livejournal.com]

The gene pool would really be better off...

[lytarules.livejournal.com]

It's flocked! *sobs in despair*

Friend me? *puppy eyes* I'm only scary some of the time, I promise!