lyssie: (Jonas - You're really not that bright)
lyssie ([personal profile] lyssie) wrote2005-03-12 12:44 am

Never re-watch soap operas.

Really.

Threads, and why I think it's pathetic.


Sigh.

Well, like Grace, Threads is fanfic on screen. The worst kind of over-blown, soap-opera, fanfic that's out there. Sadly, this is also the kind that gets 300 reviews on ff'net (making people like me feel pathetic for hating it).

Part of this is the simple fact that, instead of spreading this out over the season, it was shoved into one episode. *eyeroll* I so need to write the SG-1 Prefect Murder.

Erm, anyway. Chimera also had this pacing problem of needing to be fleshed out and divided, so we didn't feel bored.

Good bits: We win canon.

Bad bits: ...Daniel has no dress sense when dead. And Sam? Skirts do NOT go with tennis shoes. Not only that, you are SO not Suzy Homemaker, so take off that ugly sweater.. thingie.. cardigan. And wear something that looks comfy.

Seriously folks. I watched the expurgated Threads weeks ago.

The shine is off.

This episode is painfully shitty.

1. Kerry. I suppose after the Ancient chick on Atlantis, I shouldn't have been surprised that they delved into the pit again for an original character. Who is charming, loves everyone, cheerful, bright, and Knows Everything About the OTP and How To Get Them Together. She is the worst kind of Mary Sue, self-inserted by the writers to get their OTP together.

2. The resolution of sorts. Well, there WAS NONE! You fucking dipshits, meaningful glances and awkward silences mean SHIT. Try re-watching the Farscape dvds I'm sure Ben Browder will loan you, and then, maybe, you'll get it RIGHT.

3. Jacob. Sigh. I still love the last scene, it's nice and understated, and I didn't need Sam in huge-ass tears. Besides. Carter's don't cry (hear ye, all you bad fic writers: stop making her cry, you fuckers). Also? Jacob did not die to further anything. He died because it was time. (and they thought this was the end of the show)

4. Omfg. This entire episode was talking heads. Meetings and conversations and, and... This is why you balance out your action with your non-action, guys. Because otherwise, the episode is going to be boring as shit.

5. One thing I *will* say is that I'm glad we didn't have to hear whatever Sam told Pete to let him know she was breaking the engagement. I still like that scene, because she so wanted some indication that she was doing the Wrong Thing (even if, the Sam in my head is now rolling her eyes and demanding to know why her canon version is so stupid). And Pete didn't explode angrily, or say, "NO!! NEVER!" which, well, she expected.

6. Sam broke up with Pete because she wasn't happy, realized they weren't compatible, etc. Yes, folks, Sam would rather live without the 2.3 kids, white picket fence, and dog. Despite the last YEAR of having Desperately Domestic Sam shoved at us, we have finally been given back our Sam. The one who likes being a geek and doesn't give a shit about being Normal. And she did it without knowing that Jack was dumped.

7. Oma is still a manipulative whore.

8. Anubis is still boring as fuck.

9. I want more Ba'al. (and can we please stop seeing the planet Netu orbited, and Netu itself, guys? kthnx)

10. I think I want to sit down and deconstruct the season and reconstruct it so it's more fluid and arcy and less stopandstartandstall and choppy.

11. Really, people. Onslut was better organized. And that had Xavier going nucking futs and killing 10,000 people in New York.

12. Sigh. I'm still looking forward to season 9. I'll just shut my brain off, I suppose.

13. It's not that I don't want blatant Sam/Jack on screen. It's that I'd actually like to see it, instead of it being hinted at. Just. Kiss already, or something, and move on. Their relationship doesn't have to be a fucking centerpiece.

[identity profile] nostalgia-lj.livejournal.com 2005-03-12 07:36 am (UTC)(link)
Word on 3. And fuck yes on the lack of resolution. Threads needs a kiss, or a non-comforting hug. Otherwise... why did it happen?
ext_18106: (JackBeer OTP)

[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2005-03-12 07:46 am (UTC)(link)
And this is why I love the way Farscape did resolution. They gave it to you without this shitty trying to satisfy every camp (which is what is fucking the SG-1 credibility in the ass with a chainsaw).

arrg. Stop trying to please everyone!

(er... sorry...)

[identity profile] rosewildeirish.livejournal.com 2005-03-12 01:12 pm (UTC)(link)
They gave it to you without this shitty trying to satisfy every camp

...er...as long as you discount first half of s.4, yeah.

[identity profile] emiwenis.livejournal.com 2005-03-12 09:46 am (UTC)(link)
i think she was wearing the cardigan to hide the pregnant-ness :P
and i'm also really glad about how they did the pete-dumping scene.
I think it was all right to have her crying when her dad was dying.. i can see that, but other than that, carters don't cry. it takes a lot ^^

[identity profile] sandra47.livejournal.com 2005-03-12 10:06 am (UTC)(link)
2. The resolution of sorts. Well, there WAS NONE! You fucking dipshits, meaningful glances and awkward silences mean SHIT. Try re-watching the Farscape dvds I'm sure Ben Browder will loan you, and then, maybe, you'll get it RIGHT.

Hahahaha Yes, yes and yes! I so wish they would too.

See...this is one of the reasons I went off SG1 and went and found Farscape. They just did the whole angst and chemistry while giving action and insanity and hilarity at the same time so perfectly.

To me, Sam and Jack just got boring. And when they killed off my second favourite character (cause they though *last* season was the last as well... well I just kinda gave up on it. Though I have seen Threads and Moebius part I)


[identity profile] elly427.livejournal.com 2005-03-12 10:13 am (UTC)(link)
I just . . . I want to write a very nice letter to TPTB and explain that I'm about to be a university grad with no work prospects, and I have these pals on the internet and we'd totally take over the Sam/Jack arch for them, if they'd just let us redo parts of season 8.

The thing, for me, is this is pretty much the end of season 8. Mobieus is about other people, other characters who, while amusing, are certainly not the characters I know and love. So, no the Mobieus kiss doesn't cut it and yes, I think we should have gotten better actual resolution here. Argh.

[identity profile] wenshar.livejournal.com 2005-03-12 12:34 pm (UTC)(link)
1. Kerry. [...] She is the worst kind of Mary Sue, self-inserted by the writers to get their OTP together.

Word. The scene in Jack's office where, just before leaving, she turns around, hands on hips, and goes: is it just the regulations keeping you two apart? made me cringe hard as the anvil struck my head. I don't blame the actress, she did what she could with what was given to her.

2. The resolution of sorts. Well, there WAS NONE! You fucking dipshits, meaningful glances and awkward silences mean SHIT.

It wouldn't matter so much about the lack of solid resolution in Threads if Moebius had furthered it later. Alas, status quo remained.

3. Jacob. Sigh. I still love the last scene, it's nice and understated, and I didn't need Sam in huge-ass tears. Besides. Carter's don't cry (hear ye, all you bad fic writers: stop making her cry, you fuckers). Also? Jacob did not die to further anything. He died because it was time. (and they thought this was the end of the show)

He's her Dad, she's allowed to cry for once and I'd be weirded out if she didn't actually. I also didn't think Jacob had been used to further anything. For crying out loud, she just wouldn't get what he was trying to tell her! *g*

10. I think I want to sit down and deconstruct the season and reconstruct it so it's more fluid and arcy and less stopandstartandstall and choppy.

Ah, yes, yes, yes. I think the writers are the ones to blame for leaving it in the room and occasionally opening the door then slamming it right back. There was nothing in season 8 to lay the grounds for Threads. It popped out of nowhere. If there wasn't history to fall back on for Sam and Jack, you'd be hard pressed to believe they actually have feelings for each other based on season 8 eps. The season 8 reset is a really sore point for me. Season 7 resolution made more sense. Season 8 should have seen the slow development of their relationship and Jack doing something about it, instead of dithering about!

13. It's not that I don't want blatant Sam/Jack on screen. It's that I'd actually like to see it, instead of it being hinted at. Just. Kiss already, or something, and move on. Their relationship doesn't have to be a fucking centerpiece.

Show, don't tell. We've all heard that advice. And yeah, no one's asking for front and center seats.

I'm really not holding out any hope on Season 9 doing anything good in that regard, especially with RDA virtually absent. Sad, really. :(

[identity profile] rosewildeirish.livejournal.com 2005-03-12 01:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Loved what you said, but...

so need to write the SG-1 Prefect Murder.

Whatinthehell did the Prefect ever do to SG-1?

*giggles*

[identity profile] erica-w.livejournal.com 2005-03-13 07:26 am (UTC)(link)
Does this mean SG-1 will leap into The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy" and kill Ford??

;o)

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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2005-03-13 08:59 am (UTC)(link)
Actually.. It means I'm going to steal a Farscape plot and write it as SG-1 fic....

[identity profile] erica-w.livejournal.com 2005-03-13 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Cool. I never watched Farscape, so I look forward to it.
ext_18106: (JackBeer OTP)

[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2005-03-13 09:00 am (UTC)(link)
I have no idea. But I am SO in love with the idea of Sam and Jack stuck in the room.

"I don't think I can miss a second time."
"I think I'm just a very bad shot."

*happysigh* Oh, the angst.
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[identity profile] surreallis.livejournal.com 2005-03-12 02:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes. This didn't really resolve anything except to show for sure where both Sam and Jack's feelings lay. That's it. I'm not sure why people are assuming they had hawt sex. Now, maybe there was hawt beer-drenched OT4 sex at the cabin, but...

I was hoping for more of a resolution in Moebius, but can see from comments that it isn't to be. *sigh* Well, shit, fanfic does it better anyway. I hope they at least give us a real, non-hallucinatory kiss though.

[identity profile] liminalliz.livejournal.com 2005-03-13 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
1. I liked Kerry. Actually because of her Mary Sue-ness. She felt like a Sex and the City character that crossed over for a little Jack sex before returning to Manhattan for some cosmos and expensive shoes. I found her delightful but her scenes were far too painfully short so she comes across very 2.5 dimensional. I'd love for her to return in season 9 and relate to other characters. But then, maybe I'm evil?

8. Anubis is *so* damn boring. I think I had a hatred for season 7 because of how boring he is. Omg. GRRR.

9. I LOVE BA'AL (and isn't the resurrected Netu cute? *laughs*)

10. I DARE YOU. Do it.

13. And sadly, Moebius does nothing to fix this problem. It just ADDS TO IT. OMG. *flails*
ext_18106: (Burns - my tie likes me)

[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2005-03-14 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
10... Dude, do you know how long that would take? *freaks*

13. I get so tired of people who can't get that the relationship can be part of what's going on and yet NOT be the centerpiece. *beats people*

Arr.