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lyssie ([personal profile] lyssie) wrote2005-03-10 10:51 am

naming conventions of sgwun

Mess hall. Cafeteria. The commissary is the general store. Shai is already perfectly willing to smack me upside the head if I mix them up (mainly due to Red Cap's fault). But it's fucking irritating to see it in stories.

Jan. No, just, NO, people. No one calls Janet 'Jan'. Please stop making me growl on her behalf. She's small enough already, y'know.

(I've ranted on this one before) Calling Sam 'Sammie'. STOP IT. Jacob has canonically called her Sammie ONCE. And she gave him the "if I weren't afraid you were dying and needed this symbiote, I would SO KILL YOU" look. So stop it already.

On the other hand, I don't care WHAT canon has said. Jack's full name is not 'John' or 'Johnathan' (or any spelling variation). It's Jack. Just. Jack. So, just to make things clear, if I ever post a story where he's called Jonathan, you will know I'm a pod person.

Unless he's in a hurry, and all of his words are slurred together, Teal'c is not calling people one-word names. He's calling them by their given name/name of respect. "Colonel Carter", "Daniel Jackson", "General Hammond". So quit running the names into one glommed word, for frak's sake.

(In X-Men, btw, only Jean is allowed to call Nate "Nathan Christopher Charles Summers Dayspring Askani'Son!" and only when he's being a brat. Although Dom might do it for shits and giggles. And Chuckles is, well, god knows what Chuckles will do.)
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2005-03-10 05:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Yup. On a military base, the commissary is the general store. My roommate, who is almost out of the army keeps making threatening motions when they make that mistake on the show.

[identity profile] rosewildeirish.livejournal.com 2005-03-10 06:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I did not know this either. *is shamed*
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[identity profile] rowan-d.livejournal.com 2005-03-10 07:19 pm (UTC)(link)
The commissary is specifically the grocery store, almost entirely food. The regular department store (like Walmart) is the "PX" (Post Exchange) for Army or "BX"(Base Exchange) for Navy and Air Force. Commissary used to be used in general language in the U.S. to mean cafeteria, and on Stargate they definitely have said commissary for cafeteria, but it should be Mess or Mess Hall.

RowanD, 9 year Army Wife who shops at the commissary every week and has done so in several different states:)
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2005-03-10 07:52 pm (UTC)(link)
*nods* I knew didn't have it *quite* right. I think I'm just sick of seeing commissary used for mess hall. *grumble*
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[personal profile] ilanala 2005-03-10 05:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree on everything except Jack. Is there a particular reason his name isn't allowed to be Johnathan or some variation thereof?
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2005-03-10 05:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't like it. It seems too formal for him. I mean, heck, even girl!Jack is just Jack, not Jacqueline or Josephine, or something...
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[personal profile] ilanala 2005-03-10 05:37 pm (UTC)(link)
But his real name is Johnathan, right? I don't think anyone would actually call him that, but I thought that was canon.
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2005-03-10 05:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, yeah... I just don't see anyone EVER calling him that, up to and including his wife. I mean, hell, when he's introduced to visiting diginitaries, it's "Colonel Jack O'Neill"...

[identity profile] perihawk.livejournal.com 2005-03-10 05:16 pm (UTC)(link)
What are you doing awake already?

Previously posted in the wrong bloody thread....

[identity profile] perihawk.livejournal.com 2005-03-10 05:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I'll be home shortly, and demand you return to sleep. Either that or do some work for me. (;
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Re: Previously posted in the wrong bloody thread....

[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2005-03-10 05:27 pm (UTC)(link)
um. no. And no.

[identity profile] liminalliz.livejournal.com 2005-03-10 05:22 pm (UTC)(link)
CANON SAYZ HIS NAME IS JOHN J. O'NEILL! OMG!

:)

<333
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2005-03-10 05:23 pm (UTC)(link)
and I say, fuck canon, omg!

[identity profile] liminalliz.livejournal.com 2005-03-10 05:25 pm (UTC)(link)
*writes STEAMY JACK/DANIEL pr0n*
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2005-03-10 05:27 pm (UTC)(link)
...honey, i had to write my remix last night. the assigned writer is a j/der. please do not toy with me.

[identity profile] liminalliz.livejournal.com 2005-03-10 05:28 pm (UTC)(link)
CRAP! I have to write my remixes, CRAP! (thanks for the reminder, omg)
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2005-03-10 05:34 pm (UTC)(link)
*hbates you while typing one-handed, (have cat, will scratch)*

[identity profile] liminalliz.livejournal.com 2005-03-10 05:37 pm (UTC)(link)
*fears cat*
*but dances mockingly ANYWAY*
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2005-03-10 05:45 pm (UTC)(link)
*cries, as is tired and hasn't eaten*

[identity profile] liminalliz.livejournal.com 2005-03-10 05:52 pm (UTC)(link)
*wraps blanket of LOVE 'round tired& hungry lyssie and brings her cinnamon toast and ...er... eggs?*
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2005-03-10 05:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Mmm. Have toast!

But not eggs, as eggs are yucky. Hrm. Not enough milk for pancakes. ohwell.

[identity profile] liminalliz.livejournal.com 2005-03-10 06:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Eggs are AWESOME, wtf?!

errr...*sends bacon?*
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2005-03-10 06:17 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't like eggs, Sam I am.

*needs sinful lj girlfriend's icon here*

[identity profile] liminalliz.livejournal.com 2005-03-10 07:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Could you, would you with a goat?
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Re: *needs sinful lj girlfriend's icon here*

[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2005-03-10 07:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Only if the goat is actually Starbuck.

[identity profile] nostalgia-lj.livejournal.com 2005-03-10 06:53 pm (UTC)(link)
which is THE GUY WHAT WROTE TEENAGE KICKS OMG

[identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/cecilialisbon_/ 2005-03-10 06:40 pm (UTC)(link)
*hangs head in shame* Am guilty of "The Jonathan Crime" ma'am.

Although, on the commissary issue, they have actually referred to the cafeteria as the commissary in WoO. Although that could just be TPTB being wrong.

Ignore me.
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2005-03-10 07:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, I know they have. But they are wrong. *looks cute*

[identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/cecilialisbon_/ 2005-03-10 07:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Bah. Those TPTB! *shakes fist towards the sky in an overly dramatic fashion* Why do you do this to us? Why?

[identity profile] nostalgia-lj.livejournal.com 2005-03-10 06:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Sam calling him "jonathan" during sex is like the most evil thing ever.

[identity profile] liminalliz.livejournal.com 2005-03-10 07:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm sure there are more evil-thing-ever names/terms she could call him during hotmadsexing. :)
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2005-03-10 07:51 pm (UTC)(link)
sugarlips? studmuffin? hot sexy manlove?

[identity profile] liminalliz.livejournal.com 2005-03-10 07:57 pm (UTC)(link)
"Martouf" would be a little freaky. as would Pete or the other men of her harem. Something in goa'uld would unnerve me. As would "you hot space rocket of love"
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2005-03-10 08:02 pm (UTC)(link)
*considers*

Now I need to write that fic wherein Jolinar's memories break her brain, she calls him Martouf while they're screwing in some dirty motel, and then kills him....

[identity profile] liminalliz.livejournal.com 2005-03-10 08:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Why...doe she have to then kill him?
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2005-03-10 08:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Jolinar revenge thing. Sam killed her mate, now she'll kill Sam's....
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2005-03-10 09:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes. Yes I am.
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2005-03-10 07:51 pm (UTC)(link)
...ew. Yes.

*shudders*
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[identity profile] rowan-d.livejournal.com 2005-03-10 07:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Calling Sam 'Sammie'. STOP IT. Jacob has canonically called her Sammie ONCE. And she gave him the "if I weren't afraid you were dying and needed this symbiote, I would SO KILL YOU" look. So stop it already.

I have to admit, I loved this from Jacob, and it's my guess that he did it a LOT when she was little. But, I have only used it once in fic (from another character, btw), and it was in a note, not outloud, and I used it once in a desktop (Jacob-related). Am I forgiven?*g* But I do hate it when it's used prolificly, especially from Jack. Igg... Altho, it's better than "honey" or "sweetheart".:D Have you read Aeryn's "Drowning"? (Fabulous must-read fic, for those who haven't) After that, I could never hear "Sammie" again without thinking of that.:D
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2005-03-10 07:42 pm (UTC)(link)
*g*

Oddly, I have no problems with Kara calling Sam 'honey', possibly because she fires it right back with sarcastic bite... hrm.

and, no, I don't hate people who do it. And I know it happens, I just... don't like it.

[identity profile] livilla.livejournal.com 2005-03-11 10:36 am (UTC)(link)
I swear, I only used Jonathon once! And it was only so no one got confused between Jack and Mini!Jack.

*atones by sending chocolate and booze*

Amen to everything else! *makes note to go through every fic she's ever written to check for any of it*