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lyssie ([personal profile] lyssie) wrote2005-02-19 02:45 pm
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Well, that made my day...

Some very kind soul sent me a batch of email from http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/jack_and_sams_pad/ a list where our little plagiarizer is being told that she's a good writer and not in the wrong, and, ohmigod, it MUST be the work of people who are jealous and nasty and evil.

I cannot tellyou how sorry I am to know that people think I'm a bad, evil person for tarnishing and blackening her name in Stargate fandom.

Because it isn't true.

To the people on my friends list who actually supported this little shit: get off of it. Now. You're deluded.

The sad thing is that I have no access to any of the deleted stories, because I could have made textual evidence on them all being plagirized.

The gift one? Jack wouldn't fucking shop at Hot Topic for Sam. That would be ABBY'S place, dipshits.

The line at the end of Used and Abused? Is GIBBS. Completely and utterly Gibbs. Not Jack.

The one with the Sam Carter Awareness? (sorry, Caitlin Todd) if you put it into perspective, the description is of the NCIS office.

And we're not going to get into the scariness of this idiot ripping off Dex's 'Chopsticks and Moonlight'....

So, again, to the people who are supporting this little thief: quit enabling her and proving that 95% of the people on this planet are stupider than shit.
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2005-02-19 09:15 pm (UTC)(link)
So far, no. Sigh. I'm just a hard time understanding people. One of them even went and read both, and STILL said, "omg! They copied you!" when it's quite obviously the other way around...
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2005-02-19 09:15 pm (UTC)(link)
'having a hard time'. Arg.

[identity profile] mylittleredgirl.livejournal.com 2005-02-19 09:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Heh. I think I got kicked out of that newsgroup long ago for not posting. I was all flattered that they had asked me in as a "good writer!!1!" though, but, um, didn't read most of the other writers being posted there, so the flattery wore off.

*is a brat*

I got the impression from your previous posts that the actual text of the story had been find/replaced... is that true? Or is it more that the girl might actually think she's just "inspired by" a story (the way young and new writers sometimes are -- the excuse wears off if you're OVER TWELVE, though), copying ideas and plotlines and little bits of clever dialogue?

And don't worry, I'm not defending her, I'm just curious and looking for more information.
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2005-02-19 09:28 pm (UTC)(link)
It was pretty much a find/replace names job, with a little tiny bit of tweaking to change things from NCIS terms to SGC terms.

Although Jack shopping at Hot Topic because it's Sam's favorite place? Should've been a big clue.. (even scarier, I remember reading the end--Tony gives Abby a gold heart-shaped locket, and she's all thrilled--months and months ago, and mocking it, as Abby would chew Tony up and spit him out)

*headshake* I'm still... actually unsurprised.
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2005-02-19 09:59 pm (UTC)(link)
McGee. 'cause she likes him, and he's cute and geeky and adorable. But Tony is none of the above. *eg*

[identity profile] drake57.livejournal.com 2005-02-19 10:07 pm (UTC)(link)
We all know Abby and Ducky are at it in the morgue ;)
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2005-02-19 10:09 pm (UTC)(link)
*eyes*

Though it could be true....

[identity profile] mylittleredgirl.livejournal.com 2005-02-19 10:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Iiiiinteresting. Turns out I *wasn't* kicked out of the yahoo group and am still a member. I'll see if I can find out where she's hosting her stories now.
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2005-02-19 10:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Aha.

Hrm.

*craves textual analysis*

Hrm.

[identity profile] mylittleredgirl.livejournal.com 2005-02-19 10:11 pm (UTC)(link)
*laughs* I haven't found the fics yet, but what they're saying about it is basically that it's possible that other people have been plagiarizing this girl (since someone said "Oh, yes, the fics are identical... were yours posted first?" -- which is a reasonable question -- and then people just took off. *amused*) The writer herself has been silent since then. *continues to read*

[identity profile] mylittleredgirl.livejournal.com 2005-02-19 10:16 pm (UTC)(link)
OH. Apparently both "SuzyQ" and "Lt. Colonel Samantha Carter" (the original author and the plagiarist) are the same person, and she just changed her screen name and edited/reposted some of her fics (because she didn't want to use her Stargate screen name in other fandoms, or something). Still kind of a lameass way of generating new material, but if she plagiarized from *herself* than no one else gets hurt.

So does this mean we call off the hounds and just go back go regular badfic mockery?
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2005-02-19 10:19 pm (UTC)(link)
We continue to mock. But I still want textual analysis, since she's not Kellifer, Beka Cavis, Dex Farkin OR Shannon...

[identity profile] mylittleredgirl.livejournal.com 2005-02-19 10:24 pm (UTC)(link)
On the forum she says that she has pulled all of her fic off the web in order to not taint others that run in her circle for awards season, or something.

jack-and-sams-pad.com (http://www.jack-and-sams-pad.com) is the site associated with that mailing list. I believe this (http://www.jack-and-sams-pad.com/subdreamer/index.php?categoryid=47) is the author you were looking for. I don't know if any of these stories are the ones you want or how long she'll keep them up, but 'tis the best I can do.

For what it's worth, I suspect that she's not a cruel person out to harm anyone. However, I'm also interested in your textual analysis, should you ever have one, because find/replacing someone *else's* work is much more dramatically offensive than find/replacing your own!

Happy hunting.
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2005-02-19 10:36 pm (UTC)(link)
oh, that formatting hurts my eyes.. sigh.

And, sadly, none of the ones I need are there. *irritated at self* I should have grabbed them when I had the chance, but she wasn't enough of a game then.

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[identity profile] mylittleredgirl.livejournal.com 2005-02-20 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
Witness the horror of the all-caps:

HI

I WAS READING A FIC LAST NIGHT/ EARLY THIS MORNING IN WAS FROM PINK MARTINI AND I CAN'T REMEMBER THE WEB ADDRESS CAN SOME ONE WHO MIGHT FAINTLY KNOW WHAT IM ON ABOUT CAN YOU SEND ME THE WEB ADDRESS

MTxx


That answer your question? *fears*

[identity profile] hyari.livejournal.com 2005-02-20 08:11 am (UTC)(link)
oooooohhh... *admires your icon*

[identity profile] mylittleredgirl.livejournal.com 2005-02-20 01:21 pm (UTC)(link)
:) [livejournal.com profile] liminalliz made it. And then [livejournal.com profile] wisdomeagle wrote fic (http://www.livejournal.com/users/wisdomeagle/415514.html) about it! And all in all, is good icon, yay. Thanks. :)

*hopes was replying about correct icon, for is hard to tell*
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[identity profile] surreallis.livejournal.com 2005-02-19 09:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Her stories might be uploaded to the Files section of that Yahoo group. If you have someone on the inside, have them check it out. Authors do that on my Joe group all the time.

I imagine this is her only defense now. She's been found out and she has to cry "but they copied me omg!!11!". She'll do it again. Nothing wrong with you making her life a little hellish though until then.
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2005-02-19 10:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah. Hrm. Good point.

I think what irks me (and disturbs me) is that there are people who read both versions, and still think she's just being persecuted by evil people...
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[identity profile] surreallis.livejournal.com 2005-02-19 10:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, no kidding. She's apparently such a god-like writer that she has all these other people copying her work. Amazing.

[identity profile] foenix.livejournal.com 2005-02-19 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
"I cannot tellyou how sorry I am to know that people think I'm a bad, evil person for tarnishing and blackening her name in Stargate fandom."

We can still think you're bad and evil for other reasons though...right? ;)

J
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2005-02-20 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
*eg* Of course, of course....

[identity profile] stexgirl2000.livejournal.com 2005-02-20 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
I have no sympathy for Suzie Q. or whatever the hell she calls herself. She stole, she's lied, and she's a tool. And the people who believe her when the evidence shows that she stole and not the other way around are idiots. Arggh.

[identity profile] capecodgirl.livejournal.com 2005-02-20 01:55 am (UTC)(link)
Beka has something new at her lj. Apparently Beka has decided to hound this litter plagiarizing bitch to hell and back. Oh yeah, we're all invited along to watch, but only if we bring the beer and chocolate. Go and empower Beka and Shannon, and everyone who's been sullied by this bitch who isn't even good enough to write fangirl shit.

I'm done ranting now (for a little while anyways).

[identity profile] alryssa.livejournal.com 2005-02-20 05:26 am (UTC)(link)
Oooh, fanwank.

*grabs popcorn and goes to watch*

[identity profile] livilla.livejournal.com 2005-02-20 09:16 am (UTC)(link)
People make my brain hurt. Think I'll just go live in the wodds, cut off from everyone.

But then I'd have to leave the internet and laptop... which is part of my problem. Hmm.

Sam... Hot Topic? *brain explodes*
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2005-02-20 09:26 am (UTC)(link)
I know. My head hurts.

[identity profile] livilla.livejournal.com 2005-02-25 05:08 am (UTC)(link)
I think we need to go Angry Mob on their asses, in revenge for the Migraines of Doom. Or just eat a lot of chocolate.