lyssie: (Mystique - bad idea)
lyssie ([personal profile] lyssie) wrote2005-02-13 05:25 pm

Dear Daniel Jackson fans. Please stop telling us there's no Daniel in the show.

Actually, I believe the quote is, that he has a "lesser role after season four"/

Which is complete and utter shit. And you people really want to make me kill. Because SG-1 is SUPPOSED to be an ensemble show.

Seriously. You people need to buy yourself some fun toys, have some good orgasms, and remember IT'S JUST A SHOW.

Now I need to go write something that has Sam and Teal'c in it, since they're barely IN the show.

Lyssie's in-depth Daniel Analysis. By season:

S5
Enemies - Daniel was in great evidence here. The OT3 was strong with the force as they shot at Replicators. Daniel also hung out with Jake for a bit, leaving the military side of the team on their own. To... shoot at things. As they do.

Threshold - Everyone gets their little moment with Teal'c. But most of this ep is ALL Teal'c, all the time. I confess to having skimmed it and not actually watched.

Ascension - This was a Sam episode, but Daniel was in evidence here. In the beginning, at least, wearing the do-rag of shame.

The Fifth Man - While it was Sam's Machiavellian smirk that got Simmons, Daniel was there as cheerleader, and iirc, he's the one who called Simmons on it not being about Jack at all...

Red Sky - Daniel spent most of this episode keeping Jack calm, and talking to the people. And keeping Jack from killing anyone.

Rite of Passage - ...he talked to Cassie? I don't know, this episode is so painfully bad I've only watched it once.

Beast of Burden - I dare anyone to tell me there wasn't Daniel in this episode. This whole fucking thing was ABOUT him. And it was bad. Really bad. *beats DeLuise* No more Unas, damnit!

The Tomb - Lots of Daniel, lots of Daniel snark.

Between Two Fires - Ah, Daniel the diplomat.

2001 - Daniel the archeologist, climbs down into the abandoned city.

Desperate Measures - Sam episode (omg, there were TWO this season). And isn't it sad that no one noticed she was missing for two days?

Wormhole X-Treme! - I don't think this one counts....

Proving Ground - Daniel, the evil mastermind.

48 Hours - Daniel, the diplomat, scaring Paul Davis to bits.

Summit - Daniel, manslut to the stars.
Last Stand - See above.

Fail Safe - This was all about ripping off very bad movies. With snark from everyone.

The Warrior - Teal'c episode, and there was Daniel. Just not a lot. And Sam shot things.

Menace - ...All about Daniel's love for children.

The Sentinel - Daniel's love for people who break the rules, plus, Jack getting really bored with things. And, well, the whole harmonics thing.

Meridian - Duh.

Revelations - He gets lots of mentions in this one, and even closes out the episode as a breeze.

Season five tally: Daniel was definitely there.

Season six: He was in three episodes, and mentioned numerous times. The man was DEAD, people, and he was still mentioned. No one talks about Jonas Hanson anymore, or Apophis (well, Teal'c might), or even living people, like poor Lieutenant Simmons.

Season seven
Fallen
Homecoming - Do I even HAVE to do these two? I mean, jesus fucking christ...

Fragile Balance - Daniel makes jokes at Jack's expense.

Orpheus - All About Daniel's memories of being Ascended.

Revisions - Haven't -- wait. Have seen it. Daniel plays a major part, talking to the lady who disappears, and helping Sam convince Halling that they're right.

Lifeboat - ALL ABOUT DANIEL.

Enemy Mine - Daniel talks to the Unas the entire fucking episode.

Space Race - Daniel gets himself captured, and Jack has to save him. Er, I think.

Avenger 2.0 - Daniel is stuck on a planet that's flooding.

Birthright - This is a Teal'c episode, yet Daniel still gets to talk to the cute kids and Make a Difference.

Evolution, Part 1
Evolution, Part 2 - Indiana Jackson. Fuck, at this point, I'm trying to see an episode where he ISN'T a major part of it.

Grace - Well, it's a Sam episode. There's Daniel, though.

Fallout - Daniel the diplomat, again. And Jonas with bad hair. Sigh.

Chimera - Half of this episode is All About Daniel. Again. C'mon, people, at this point, I'm beginning to wonder why they don't rename the show the Stargate: Daniel Jackson.

Death Knell - Daniel talks to lots of people in this episode, including the Tok'ra, jaffa, and Jacob. He also participates in the Glare of Doom given to Reynolds when he suggests Sam is dead.

Heroes, Part 1
Heroes, Part 2 - ...C'mon, do I have to do this one? Daniel spends part 2 angry at everything, cries in the dark, talks to Bregmann, and generally is in lots of scenes.

Resurrection - Daniel Talks to Mary Sue Goa'uld. And mourns her death. There is no Jack. *sad*

Inauguration - None of them were in this one, except for clips.

Lost City, Part 1
Lost City, Part 2 - You're right. Daniel wasn't in this episode at all. Jack never told him he couldn't put his head in the library, he didn't get drunk at Jack's and talk about Teal'c, he didn't try to hit on Weir, and he did't figure out the praklarush teonas was a gate address. Oh, wait, he did.

Season eight
New Order, Part 1
New Order, Part 2 - Did anyone miss Daniel? If you blinked, you might have. Not. Half of this episode is Daniel and the Goa'uld. Oh, and Liz.

Lockdown - Daniel gets taken over, shot, talks to the goa'uld, and comes up with a really stupid plan.

Zero Hour - There wasn't ANY SG-1 in this. But Daniel did get to be snarky.

Icon - Daniel is the only person in this episode, apart from the guy who is now dead and a martyr to his cause.

Avatar - Daniel goes into the fucking game to save Teal'c. (actually, I love this ep. CJ did a FABULOUS job with it)

Affinity - Let's see. Daniel talks to Teal'c, Daniel gets himself almost snipered, Daniel translates something from Ancient, Daniel gets zatted. Yep. Pretty sure he was in this.

Covenant - I can't watch this episode. I think Daniel was in there, among the stupid.

Sacrifices - Daniel was cute with Sam, talked to Teal'c... at the ceremony?

Endgame - Daniel was in this episode. A lot.

Gemini - Daniel was only in the very beginning, but I suspect that's because he was off to work on his arguments for the next episode.

Prometheus Unbound - Not enough Daniel? Right. You people are apparently smoking something good. Or just not watching.

It's Good To Be King - Lots of Daniel, in geek!mode, and being weapony.

Full Alert - Again, lots of Daniel. Diplomat, interogator, idiot.
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[personal profile] ilanala 2005-02-13 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
I've never really understood the whole "Daniel was ignored starting way back in season 4 because the evil writers only cared about the Sam/Jack" thing. Daniel's my favorite character, but I don't feel like he gets left out any more than the other characters sometimes do when the episodes focus on a particular character. Stargate fandom is crazy...

[identity profile] redstarrobot.livejournal.com 2005-02-13 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Oooh, Sam/Teal'c? Or Sam and Teal'c... well, so long as there's Teal'c, yes? :)

[identity profile] liminalliz.livejournal.com 2005-02-13 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
*becomes totally scared by this list*

If your still in rant mode, could you run down all the "proving the ship" S/J eps?


What irritates me about my daniel hate is that Reckoning made me like him. A lot. *growls*
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2005-02-14 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
*pets* Sadly, right now, the ship is all in my head.

And, well, I don't hate Daniel. I get that he's part of the greater whole. His fans just make me want to kill him so he'll go away. :/

[identity profile] katcorvi.livejournal.com 2005-02-14 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
Affinity - Let's see. Daniel talks to Teal'c, Daniel gets himself almost snipered, Daniel translates something from Ancient, Daniel gets zatted. Yep. Pretty sure he was in this.

And this is why I love you. Marry me?

Alas, I have no Daniel icon to use. (See, it's because he's just not part of the show anymore, so I didn't bother to get one. Oh, drat. Must use a Jack icon instead.)

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[identity profile] surreallis.livejournal.com 2005-02-14 01:22 am (UTC)(link)
You're so right. I'm a huge Daniel fan and yet those fans annoy the living hell out of me. And many times when they say Daniel isn't in enough eps, what they eventually get around to is that Sam is a storyline hog who is favored by the writers. And of course... that degrades into the incompetent ho thing.

I just can't fathom what's going through some of these people's minds when they're watching the show. Like you said sometime earlier, are they even watching the SAME show?

[identity profile] rosewildeirish.livejournal.com 2005-02-14 01:53 am (UTC)(link)
...don't you mean so they'll go away?
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2005-02-14 03:29 am (UTC)(link)
If he's dead, they'll write letters again, send death threats, take out ads, and just be nuisances more... Sadly, they will never go away.

Nor will they ever stop claiming that their campaign convinced the producers to hire him back.

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[personal profile] havocthecat 2005-02-14 03:29 am (UTC)(link)
Lifeboat - ALL ABOUT DANIEL.

There was some fairly kickass Janet in there too.

Yeah, I know Janet was kicking ass and taking names to get Daniel to be not-crazy. But still. I felt the need to point it out because I have serious Janet love. :)
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[personal profile] havocthecat 2005-02-14 03:31 am (UTC)(link)
Why didn't anybody tell me this wasn't a real show?
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2005-02-14 03:33 am (UTC)(link)
*snerk*

Sure. And, I like Daniel... sigh. The like just gets destroyed whenever I have to interact with fans who say he doesn't get any stories. arrrrrrr.
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2005-02-14 03:35 am (UTC)(link)
They are watching the Bizarro SG. The one where Jack actually hates Sam and continually undermines her and belittles her because she's just a weak-willed woman who isn't dating him.

...er. And she steals all the plots!

Really.
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2005-02-14 03:37 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, yes. Exactly. It was a fabulous Janet episode (which is why we watch it). But I was doing the Daniel stuff.

*loves Janet*
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[personal profile] havocthecat 2005-02-14 03:48 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, yes, yes, I am a sad and pathetic Janet fan too. :) I only watch it for the Janet stuff.

And yeah, I know you were doing the Daniel thing because the latest meow-boom was totally ridiculous. Not that they're not all ridiculous. Because they so are.
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[personal profile] havocthecat 2005-02-14 03:49 am (UTC)(link)
Dude, you forgot to say that she takes credit for everyone else's ideas too! And that she never has an original thought of her own.
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[personal profile] havocthecat 2005-02-14 03:50 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, and forgot to say: *dies laughing* Too funny! Thanks for doing this!

[identity profile] tafkarfanfic.livejournal.com 2005-02-14 04:11 am (UTC)(link)
What was the latest meow-boom?

Wait - do I really want to know?
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2005-02-14 04:44 am (UTC)(link)
Actually, it was an article someone else mentioned talking about Daniel's diminished role on the show so that Sam/Jack could be pushed forward.

To which my original response was stark incomprehension.

[identity profile] nostalgia-lj.livejournal.com 2005-02-14 05:56 am (UTC)(link)
Heroes, Part 1
Heroes, Part 2 - ...C'mon, do I have to do this one? Daniel spends part 2 angry at everything, cries in the dark, talks to Bregmann, and generally is in lots of scenes.


And he killed Janet. *nodnod*
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2005-02-14 06:18 am (UTC)(link)
Y're welcome. *g*
ext_18106: (JackBeer OTP)

[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2005-02-14 06:20 am (UTC)(link)
...*snickers madly*

ext_18106: (Kitty - That's what..)

[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2005-02-14 06:21 am (UTC)(link)
Right! And is overly emotional! And cries! (and you suck because now I have a Gemini tag that's so Mary Sue in my head)

[identity profile] fallenbelle.livejournal.com 2005-02-14 06:21 am (UTC)(link)
*dies laughing*

[identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/cecilialisbon_/ 2005-02-14 11:51 am (UTC)(link)
*laughs at the nice little Daniel summaries*

I like Daniel. His fans however....*brandishes a weapon*

I'm beginning to wonder why they don't rename the show the Stargate: Daniel Jackson.

You must hide that from the fangirls. They will start a petition.

And the whole "Daniel was pushed out for the non-chemistry of S & J"?

*yawns* Are they watching the same show?

[identity profile] rosewildeirish.livejournal.com 2005-02-14 02:11 pm (UTC)(link)
True, but then isn't it easier to avoid the gushfests (where they tend to keep to their own comfy corners) than a campaign where they're actively seeking out others to enlist?

/devil's avocate

[identity profile] jacksrubberduck.livejournal.com 2005-02-14 03:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Ty for giving me one more opportunity to point and laugh at the Daniel nutters.

Cos clearly they are all a bit, okay a *lot*, strange in the head.
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[personal profile] havocthecat 2005-02-15 05:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Yay, I suck! I don't know, you should so consider writing the Gemini tag. Just because.

And Sam would deserve any evilness that was heaped upon her little blonde head, because she gets in the way of the Twue Luv that is Jack and Daniel. And she probably is going to cry while she's trying to break them up! For her own evil purposes!
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[personal profile] havocthecat 2005-02-15 05:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Just all kinds of crap about the Threads spoilers that have come through. I don't want to spoil you if you haven't heard any of them...
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2005-02-15 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Oddly enough, I did write one. It just didn't deal with anything.

It was... angsty, angry sex. iirc. Eh.


hrm.

[identity profile] livilla.livejournal.com 2005-02-18 04:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Yep, no Daniel whatsoever there! You know, the Daniel fans can at least share whatever their on. We're all part of the same fandom, you know!

[identity profile] livilla.livejournal.com 2005-02-18 04:05 pm (UTC)(link)
They're, THEY'RE!***** Damn it, I need sleep to be able to spell or use the right words...
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2005-02-18 04:09 pm (UTC)(link)
*smooches*

Yeah, I know. All of this great crack and heroin, and they're NOT sharing! Didn't they learn to share in kindergarten?

[identity profile] livilla.livejournal.com 2005-02-19 08:37 am (UTC)(link)
*cuddles*

Exactly. I mean, nit is one of the first things you learn! Especially if you have siblings. *grumbles* I want to have the wacky hallucinations, too! *whine*