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lyssie ([personal profile] lyssie) wrote2005-01-28 10:09 pm

Wheeeeeeeeeeeee!!!

So. SF Friday. I'm beginning to get the impression that my opinion is going to be different a lot.

Everyone hated SG-1's episode 'Avatar'. I loved it. Quite a few people like the genii. I think they're the worst plot device villains since the Tollan got their asses kicked.

You see where this is going?

I liked Prometheus Unbound. I liked The Defiant One.... Oddly, iirc, most people hated them both.

And BG was also amusing.



SG-1. Wow. Okay, first off, the entire opening scene proves once and for all that SG-1 are all 6.

Daniel: "Well, you have to let me go, Jack!"
Jack: "Why?"
Daniel: "Because Sam is still here!"

Jack: "Damn. He's taking my chair, my bitch, and my secretary. Who's going to organize me? Ack! CARTER!"

The Prometheus pops out of hyper space to find an al'kesh. Reynolds suggests it could be useful. To me, this is logical, especially since I think Jack gave their last al'kesh to the rebel jaffa... Or did Carter break it? In a well-executed move, the super soldier takes over the ship and leaves everyone behind... And doesn't kill them (what's up with that, anyway? RC didn't kill people, either! Apparently, only the REALLY bad guys do).

Daniel is left on the ship because she's already taken off, and didn't know he was there...

And then the fun really begins. Daniel and Vala spark off each other and snark brilliantly. Although half the time I wanted to call him Crichton... And then I remembered that Daniel, s7-8 Daniel, has been a hell of a lot snarkier.

Vala is off her rocker. Is she Aeryn? If you squished Aeryn, Domino, and the Dark Phoenix together, yeah. But she's a personality in her own right. I liked the energy she brought to the scenes, I liked the fact that we NEVER knew precisely what she was really doing -- or why she was doing it.

And, to me, the end was perfect. She's not a suddenly new member (hello, Mary Sue), and she isn't a sworn enemy. She's just -- gone.

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Atlantis. McKay and Shep are SO SIX. They are like the bouncy kids who go, "Mom, can we have some candy?"

Shep: "It's shiny, Lizzie, can we go play?!"

Which of course means that Liz immediately knows they're going to get into trouble.

And Nyan! omfg! Nyan is in Pegasus!! That makes my little heart glad, that does. It means he's no longer sequestered deep inside the SGC.

I like that Shep has this driving need to figure out stuff to fuck with the Wraith. It makes him that much hotter. Mmm. Driven men. And Ford's shoulders! We need more of them, people. And more Liz, but this was almost good enough, as her Shep-sense was going off full time.

The Wraith, btw, are still not scary in the least. And they should never have let that guy yell loud, because the difference between his makeup and the pinkness of the inside of his mouth was... bad.

While it was sad to note who were the redshirts immediately, I still enjoyed them. And I loved Nyan's point that Rodney is more into danger now than he was before. Because he's had to be, he's had to change and adapt to the situation (which, really, is all he's ever really needed, along with less of an ego).

Unfortunately, Rodney should have known better than to give the dying man a gun. (I told him not to, but he wouldn't listen).

I'm also groovy and happy about Nyan killing himself. Because it's a serious, dramatic flair thing, and SG has always copped out of this sort of thing. Sadly, I doubt it'll mean much in the long run.

Wraith go boom was fab.

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BG
Ah, Kara. I love you dearly, babe.

There was sex! And she was practically masturbating in public! Siiiigh.

Damn, I've got it bad.

Good ep, though. ;)

[identity profile] edana-ni-emer.livejournal.com 2005-01-29 04:47 am (UTC)(link)
The cat-fight between Aerin--I mean Vala-- and Daniel was hysterical. Ear-yanking and hair-pulling, and thighs around the head... and of course smoochies at the end. 'Cause Daniel simply *can't* spend ten minutes in a room with an alien female without getting macked on, for some reason. Well, it *might* be 'cause he's pretty... :-)
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2005-01-29 05:09 am (UTC)(link)
The cat-fight had me cackling and laughing madly.

*g*

[identity profile] daisycm83.livejournal.com 2005-01-29 04:50 am (UTC)(link)
I'm totally with you. I loved them all. There was snark. There was angst. There was borderline public masturbation.

'Twas a very good night.

Vala is insane. Seriously cracked. And hey, they didn't overly explain the character, so now I'm ok with seeing her next season, because she could be anything and I'm actually interested. Daniel got to be snarky. Not sure if I really enjoy snarky Daniel, but I enjoy snark in general, so I'm willing to blur the distinction. And General Hammond! I had missed him!

Mmm, Atlantis. I seriously think there is very little about this show now that I do not love to an insane amount. Now, I kept missing the guy who got aged's name-was it actually Nayan or one of those 'hey, look, we cast the same guy!' things they like to do? Either way, dude. Lizzie *does* have a Shep sense and it's so adorably cute. It made me dance around. Mentally, anyway.

Ah, BSG. Addiction to a whole new level. And finally, a Sci-fi show that doesn't toe around the issue of sex. But I loved it and her and when she had to tell the Commander everything I was all, "oh no! Very sad!" and 'twas not good. There are so many wacky pseudo-family vibes going on in that show. I love it.
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2005-01-29 04:54 am (UTC)(link)
*laughs* Good. *clings*

Actually, his name was.. Dr. something-or-other, but yeah, same actor as Nyan. sigh. Ohwell. At least it was Lt. Elliott again. ;)

Yes! Sex in SF! It happens, damnit! Probably more than the violence. And the family vibes are very scary, actually. *eg*

[identity profile] katcorvi.livejournal.com 2005-01-29 05:00 am (UTC)(link)
You know me. If there's snark, I'm in love. Loved tonight's ep. I am happy now.

And I'm staying on the energy-sucking sofa and watching that spin off show. Liking it, too, but I feel like I already know these characters thanks to reading fic before I ever saw an ep.

Can't stay seated long enough for three straight hours of tv, so have save BG for tomorrow. Still not feeling the love for it that everyone else is. Maybe tonight's ep will change that?

And finally, did you notice that Pete is starring in a dog food commercial? Yep, for Purina's Beneful. Two versions aired during tonight's SG eps and I paused the show and said, "Yep, that's Pete. Sam kicked him out and he got a border collie."
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2005-01-29 05:08 am (UTC)(link)
heh. I move around a lot...

And, yes! I keep complaining about the gratuitous Pete on my tv.

[identity profile] qwirky.livejournal.com 2005-01-29 05:02 am (UTC)(link)
I loved "Avatar." Best early Season 8 episode, hands-down. And "The Defiant One" I loved. "Prometheus Unbound" was just painfully pointless; when Daniel and Vala are together, it's fun, 'cause Vala is insane and I love her. <3<3

And more Liz, but this was almost good enough, as her Shep-sense was going off full time.
Tingles! It tinglessss! Like an orgasm, only not. They can have sex when they're light years away from one another. *happies*

*clings to Sheppard and McKay*

KARA. *clings to her also* Starbuck~~~
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2005-01-29 05:09 am (UTC)(link)
..and Icon, Covenant, End Game, Affinity and Gemini weren't pointess? Seriously, most of this season has been bottle shows with so little point to them it's hurt.

[identity profile] qwirky.livejournal.com 2005-01-29 05:12 am (UTC)(link)
"End Game" and "Gemini" furthered the whole... whatever story SG-1 is trying to do right now with the Trust and the Replicators. "Affinity" was showing what Teal'c's been up to in Earth matters. "Icon" had some sort of plot, but "PU" didn't even try to have one. It just gloried in Daniel and Vala going at each other.
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2005-01-29 05:16 am (UTC)(link)
...The Trust are like a badly-written Chuck Austen comicbook plot. Icon's plot was lost in the completely boring nature of the execution (and recycled from at least three other episodes).

PU at least let some of the secondary characters get SOME screen-time, even if it was mostly Daniel and Vala. It was good to see Hammond again, and Walter kicked a lot of ass, and Colonel Reynolds is still growing on me.

[identity profile] qwirky.livejournal.com 2005-01-29 05:21 am (UTC)(link)
*doesn't read comic books* And yes, "Icon" was pretty boring. "PU" wasn't bad, it just didn't have any plot other than to say, "Oh, hey, this is why the SGC hasn't gone to atlantis yet." I pretty much ignored the parts without Daniel and Vala though 'cause it was just uninteresting. *shrug*
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2005-01-29 05:23 am (UTC)(link)
*nods* We're gonna disagree on this one, I suspect.

Oh well. *passes Shep over* He still needs a spanking for getting shot. Want the honors? ;)

[identity profile] qwirky.livejournal.com 2005-01-29 05:25 am (UTC)(link)
*shares cookies*

I can spank Sheppard? omfg! *goes to it* He also got all the little "Prodigy" bugs killed... but keep that on the hush, I told a few people the bugs "flew away" in time. *shifty*
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2005-01-29 05:28 am (UTC)(link)
*beats lj for eating her reply*

*munches cookies*

Right. No telling Hailey, she might be sad. (Jack might be happy, though. And Teal'c would raise an eyebrow.)
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[identity profile] surreallis.livejournal.com 2005-01-29 05:11 am (UTC)(link)
Daniel seemed to reach some sort of weird breaking point in this one. He learned to take charge too. Useful next season? Hmmm...

I love the totally funny, campy eps, so I adored this one. Plus... the hotness, gahhh.
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2005-01-29 05:18 am (UTC)(link)
*g* Daniel hit the breaking point sometime in season 7, I think. And ever since then he's been slowly unraveling himself and re-constituting into something a lot more durable, but a lot less, well, Daniel. Maybe he's distilled Daniel now.... Hrm. Essence of Daniel?

(I really hadn't meant to drag out the bad analogies)

Anyway. I think Daniel's just gotten to the point where nothing really phazes him anymore...

[identity profile] mitai.livejournal.com 2005-01-29 05:41 am (UTC)(link)
Y'know, I have been seriously disappointed with the last two episodes of SG-1.

Sam - "Hey! It's a replica of me that constantly 'underestimates' my curiosity! My numero uno trait! Gee, that's what Fifth tried to stamp out - my curiosity!" Give me a break.

But this episode? Was so much worse.

Hammond - "Yes, I'm in charge of all manner of fun Stargate things, so I elect myself as the head leader! Fear me, jaffa minio-er, and dammit, I want Walter too! Wait, you say there's not enough air on that al'kesh to support a decently trained, in-shape Marine like Reynolds for more than two minutes! Send the old fat desk jockey! I'm all over it, man!"

::snugs PGH:: I'm sorry for that guy, because his part was just about as out of character as you could get. Unless they're setting up his suicidal tendencies about being a desk jockey that will mirror Jack's when he first went to Abydos? And I really doubt that. ::drolly::

Now, part of me really, really enjoyed the episode, and laughed almost all the way through. Some parts were _funny._ I'm just sad that they had that weak of a plot, constructed almost exclusively around simply looking for an excuse to have Earth NOT rescue the Stargate Atlantis group and to introduce Claudia Black.

Atlantis? Very happy with. The New Hitler Youth are pretty much retarded, and the Wraith are not scary at all, but I like the group dynamic. I am loving John. And I am loving me some Rodneh. I think Rodneh is my new love . . . but no one can replace Teal'c.

::snuggles Teal'c::

Except maybe Bishop.
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2005-01-29 05:44 am (UTC)(link)
Heh. And, see,I thought that was in character for Hammond (he who went to frickin' Chulak to help Teal'c save SG-1). But I suppose that's me.

[identity profile] mitai.livejournal.com 2005-01-29 05:50 am (UTC)(link)
Well, yes. He was helping Teal'c recruit people, not particularly risking his life stupidly. He disallows SG-1 (when they aren't disobeying direct orders) from doing collasally stupid stuff, and sending an out of shape old general to do a fit Marine's work is . . . well, it's such a stupid thing to do. And insisting that he be the one to go - I didn't miss the overwhelming "I'm not going to lose a man for this" excuse that was plastered all over the screen, but no general would make that mistake.

Oh well. Next week's looks like an improvement, and there's always the previous seasons if I want good plot. This ep wasn't really about plot. it was about Farscape and Stargate fans giggling watching Claudia beat the crap out of Daniel. In that, I think we can both agree it was highly successful.
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2005-01-29 06:49 am (UTC)(link)
I'll stop arguing, then.

Erm, yes. Next week looks fun.

[identity profile] alryssa.livejournal.com 2005-01-29 10:11 am (UTC)(link)
*dies* Those fight scenes were laugh-out-loud funny. And the bit where he's watching her in the cell and using his fingers to 'squish' her head on the screen was amusing as hell.

Shep's line "Everybody remember where we parked" was *so* lifted from Star Trek IV. Which made me snigger.

And - ooh. Toasty Wraith.

Dude. I am so sucked in by the Starbuck angst.

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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2005-01-29 10:30 am (UTC)(link)
*g* The squishing your head bit made all of us laugh, because we KNEW that's what he was doing.

And. Dude! I missed Shep saying that! Damn.

(very toasty Wraith. Best kind!)

Heh. The Starbuck angst, movement, smiles... sigh. Damn, I like her.
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[identity profile] nique.livejournal.com 2005-01-29 01:43 pm (UTC)(link)
*bad russian accent* "I am crushink your head. Crushink crushink crushink..."


And *snickers madly* All, when the 'drone' showed up... I had to stop from cackling, because I was just waitingwaitingwaiting for her to take it off and totally recreate Farscape's premier. ...they did not disapoint. *snickers more*

[identity profile] livilla.livejournal.com 2005-01-29 11:33 am (UTC)(link)
*stomps foot* Now I really wanna see Prometheus Unbound! Snarky!Daniel! And catfights! I am cheated like whoa.

Jack: "Damn. He's taking my chair, my bitch, and my secretary. Who's going to organize me? Ack! CARTER!"

*giggles* I love how you summarise Jack, though. *pets him* But isn't he Sam's bitch?
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2005-01-29 07:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Jack is Sam's bitch, but Daniel is Jack's...

*smirks*

[identity profile] livilla.livejournal.com 2005-02-01 07:48 am (UTC)(link)
And they're all Janet's bitches! Except for Jonas, who clearly belongs to Teal'c.

But Thor totally owns all their asses.

*also smirks*

[identity profile] fangirljen.livejournal.com 2005-01-29 01:26 pm (UTC)(link)
So loved "Prometheus Unbound." Love love love love love love love. Weird foreplay Vala has there, but damn, that fighting scene was soooo kickass. It made me happy because it's something I haven't actually seen before. Go that! :) And Daniel the snarky one, hehe. I can dig it. I think he has what it takes to be more of an upfront guy in Season 9, that's for sure. And Vala is coming back for five more eps. Heheheheheh!!! :-D

And dude, that sooo wasn't Nyan. Okay, it sounded like him, looked like him, but it wasn't him. According to the IMDB, anyways. Unless Nyan changed his name to be able to fit in more with Earth humans, or something. And it sucks for that actor though, really. This is the second time he has been stuck in a cave!!

Heh. But didn't anyone else like the return of the glowy things!! Yay for the intangible glowy things that can kill you!! *whistles*
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2005-01-29 07:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, I know it wasn't the character Nyan. But it was the actor, and I hate SG-1 for doing that. (Farscape was just as bad, although the biggest noticeable one is Grayza's screw-toy in PK Wars was a Zenetan pirate that Chiana killed)

Really, it's just that Vancouver only has ten actors....

[identity profile] fangirljen.livejournal.com 2005-01-29 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh yeah, I hate it too. Sometimes TV shows can pull it off like with Highlander and X-Files: Nick Lea played two different chars in both of those shows and it all seemed to go well. *L*

Heh. Farscape is in Australia, though, and that means even -fewer- actors.

I have something to prove that. *L* Of 16 regular actors in X-Men: Evolution, ten of them have been on SG-1 or Atlantis.

[identity profile] liminalliz.livejournal.com 2005-01-29 09:15 pm (UTC)(link)
I miss the Tollan. *pouts*

The Genii could be interesting if the Atlantis writers were good at all at the bad guy thing. *hates them*

Write me a Prometheus Unbound tag fic about Carter and JAck sexing in Daniel's absense.


I loved Vala. Probably because how can you not love Aeryn Claudia Black?!


I love Nyan's character as I know so many women like him. Not to say he's girly at all; no, just that I know that type of personality. I'd also like to note that they really leave it up to our interp if that's Nyan or not. It could just be like NArim/Simon; but it also could be what happened to Nyan in the end - he changed to an Earth name and got uppity. I love him so. And I love LOVE that they addressed suicide on the show and the fact that he's right. Dr. Nyan would never have really "made" it if they got him back to Atlantis. Which sucks. *pets him*

Have I mentioned that I hate the Wraith?



Kara's masturbating in public was disturbingly hot. :sighs:
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2005-01-29 09:56 pm (UTC)(link)
mm. Carter sex.

And, yes! Suicide! Exactly. (I was happily babbling at Timey about it last night)

Well, I suppose it could've been Nyan... Hee.

Mm. Kara.

[identity profile] fallenbelle.livejournal.com 2005-01-30 08:07 am (UTC)(link)
*Yes!!!* Joins the call in demanding fic where Carter sexes Jack. Because as you pointed out earlier, Jack is soooo Sam's bitch.

[identity profile] anastasiab.livejournal.com 2005-01-29 09:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Sheppard is mighty hot. PU was silly, but the "I'm crushing your head" made it worth it.

Kara-angst is wonderful. I'm so glad they're exploring that- the snippet of "Go get our girl" in the preview for next week was sooooooooooo good, but it does kinda spoil the fact that Adama got over the fury. I love those dynamics, how she just could not bring herself to tell about Zach to the Commander, but she could to Lee to protect the Commander. It's just good stuff.
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2005-01-29 09:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Mmm. Shep. Yeah, the previews were kinda spoilery. But I suppose it's partly because he knows they need her as a pilot...

[identity profile] obsidian179.livejournal.com 2005-01-30 04:37 am (UTC)(link)
There was sex! And she was practically masturbating in public! Siiiigh.

Okay, the sex I saw - a couple times, really - but... Did I blink, or something? When did that happen?
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2005-01-30 05:45 am (UTC)(link)
ok, so it wasn't *really*.... But she was running her fingers over her lips and ear, and remembering having sex....