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HAHAHAHAH!!! Fanon to Canon
LIZ! I was poking, trying to find old porn in my lj, and I came across a conversation we had back in August. And Gemini proves WE WERE RIGHT! (did you mention this? Possibly)
*dedfromamusement*
Liz's reply to http://www.livejournal.com/users/lyssie/400941.html post.
liminalliz
2004-08-28 11:56 (from 24.174.173.190) (link) Select
I still think it shows how much it's buried in that her Ideal Reality as shown by Fifth had Pete in it, on a farm... And part of that HAS to be that Fifth really wasn't delving the whole distance. It was all surface (who wouldn't want to be somewhere peaceful with fluffy animals and normality when they were being tortured?)
I think one of the key issues in that is that she is seeing a shrink and Pete is commandingly supportive of her going to a shrink.
Ummm... I find that scary. Especially as he uses it as a passive aggressive weapon against her.
But back to what Fifth was thinking to put her there as her Fantasy Romantic World - I think Fifth doesn't fully understand the complex mind of Samantha Carter (especially because Sam doesn't understand it either) and when he dug into her mind trying to find the fantasy Matrix life he could shove her into, he saw Pete, like you say, on the surface and this wildly idealistic life away from the Stargate and completely domestic. Fifth didn't find the true fantasy that Sam harbors - especially as she's continued to repress it, I suppose?
That's where I think RepliCarter will know that dirty little secret.
A fic I keep trying to play with is what if there was more than one fantasy that Fifth gave Sam and her continued realization that the Matrix wasn't real, etc.
Poor Fifth. *loves on him*
He is too domestic
I totally go with that argument. :) All he offers to Sam is stability and sex. Which is nice. But not Jack.
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My reply to her:
lyssie
2004-08-28 13:06 (from 65.25.166.8) (link) Select
The shrink thing. Ugh. I always think of MacKenzie and. Just. No.
*crosses fingers that RepliCarter will know it*
Because she so should.
Maybe it's a processing thing?
Logic versus emotion never is a child's strong suit. And Fifth/etc are all still children, in some respects. They may look like adults, but they don't have the life experience.
Stability and sex *are* nice.
But it was the same reason I liked Pete Wisdom with Kitty Pryde. Carter is, to some extent, an adrenaline junkie. Shanahan just... isn't. He's a cop, yes, but he doesn't seem to *like* it.
Or (as mentioned) it could be just my reading of it.
Of course, Jack can so be domestic. Dude. Fishing. Heh.
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*dedfromamusement*
Liz's reply to http://www.livejournal.com/users/lyssie/400941.html post.
liminalliz
2004-08-28 11:56 (from 24.174.173.190) (link) Select
I still think it shows how much it's buried in that her Ideal Reality as shown by Fifth had Pete in it, on a farm... And part of that HAS to be that Fifth really wasn't delving the whole distance. It was all surface (who wouldn't want to be somewhere peaceful with fluffy animals and normality when they were being tortured?)
I think one of the key issues in that is that she is seeing a shrink and Pete is commandingly supportive of her going to a shrink.
Ummm... I find that scary. Especially as he uses it as a passive aggressive weapon against her.
But back to what Fifth was thinking to put her there as her Fantasy Romantic World - I think Fifth doesn't fully understand the complex mind of Samantha Carter (especially because Sam doesn't understand it either) and when he dug into her mind trying to find the fantasy Matrix life he could shove her into, he saw Pete, like you say, on the surface and this wildly idealistic life away from the Stargate and completely domestic. Fifth didn't find the true fantasy that Sam harbors - especially as she's continued to repress it, I suppose?
That's where I think RepliCarter will know that dirty little secret.
A fic I keep trying to play with is what if there was more than one fantasy that Fifth gave Sam and her continued realization that the Matrix wasn't real, etc.
Poor Fifth. *loves on him*
He is too domestic
I totally go with that argument. :) All he offers to Sam is stability and sex. Which is nice. But not Jack.
-=-=-
My reply to her:
lyssie
2004-08-28 13:06 (from 65.25.166.8) (link) Select
The shrink thing. Ugh. I always think of MacKenzie and. Just. No.
*crosses fingers that RepliCarter will know it*
Because she so should.
Maybe it's a processing thing?
Logic versus emotion never is a child's strong suit. And Fifth/etc are all still children, in some respects. They may look like adults, but they don't have the life experience.
Stability and sex *are* nice.
But it was the same reason I liked Pete Wisdom with Kitty Pryde. Carter is, to some extent, an adrenaline junkie. Shanahan just... isn't. He's a cop, yes, but he doesn't seem to *like* it.
Or (as mentioned) it could be just my reading of it.
Of course, Jack can so be domestic. Dude. Fishing. Heh.
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Sweet. *grin*
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