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lyssie ([personal profile] lyssie) wrote2004-12-21 06:48 am

hrrmm..

So. Was thinking. And the following really isn't a spoiler for Gemini: BUT. The only way Gemini works for me is if I continue to believe that during the opening credits, Sam and Jack went off and had sex in the shower and Sam slipped and hit her head. Really.

In other news, the wank in SG fandom is strong (I swear, every time I read a post on the new casting 'spoilers' -- and, dude, wtf? CASTING IS A SPOILER??? Oh, guess we'd better not tell you the show's NAME, either... *eyeroll* -- I hear Obi-Wan in the back of my head saying, "The wank is strong with this fandom. Its ship has it, its other ship has it, and even the baby 'ships gain some of it...")

Which is sad, because I thought Doctor Who was the wankiest fandom of them all...

At work, I've had to resort to pairings for my password (callyavon isn't a recognized dictionary word, for instance). And have realized that, within the year? I shall have to either resort to lesser known pairings (if I haven't already), but also almagamated names.

Yes. This time next year, my password could be 'spuffy'.

Must go get dressed for work.
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[identity profile] tafkarfanfic.livejournal.com 2004-12-21 05:14 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, gosh, you've never looked at LOTR fandom, have you? They beat Gate fandom with one wanky hand tied behind their back. Of course, they've had lots more years to practice.

Star Trek fandom used to be full of wank. Maybe that's what killed it...
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[identity profile] karma-aster.livejournal.com 2004-12-21 01:12 pm (UTC)(link)
(eyebrow raise)Obviously, you kids haven't been in Harry Potter fandom lately. The wank will eat you alive.

Seriously, those guys are fucked-up, yo.

[identity profile] tafkarfanfic.livejournal.com 2004-12-21 05:13 am (UTC)(link)
The only way Gemini works for me is if I continue to believe that during the opening credits, Sam and Jack went off and had sex in the shower and Sam slipped and hit her head.

*dies*

And, yeah, the wank is killing me, too. As well as the pessimism. "Well, you KNOW it's going to be awful, because TPTB will just screw it up...blah blah blah..." How about being cheerful? How about being optimistic? For FUCK's sake. I'm looking forward to next season, and I wish other people would QUIT BITCHING. (Other people NOT meaning you, BTW...)

[identity profile] livilla.livejournal.com 2004-12-21 06:16 am (UTC)(link)
Oh my God, that's it exactly! Thank you for expressing it in a way I couldn't before! I was all looking forward to season 9 and they they ruined it for me!

Also, icon love! *cackles*

[identity profile] tafkarfanfic.livejournal.com 2004-12-21 10:22 am (UTC)(link)
Yay! My work here is done.

[identity profile] livilla.livejournal.com 2004-12-22 10:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Hee! *stares at your icon*

[identity profile] qwirky.livejournal.com 2004-12-21 10:49 am (UTC)(link)
How about being optimistic? For FUCK's sake. I'm looking forward to next season, and I wish other people would QUIT BITCHING.
So, we should never say anything unless it's SUPER HAPPY? Oh drat.

Exactly why should some of us be optimistic when RDA isn't likely to return, Claudia Black is being brought back for FIVE episodes and hinted at being a replacement for Amanda Tapping (if only temporarily), Ben Browder is coming on board full-time instead of Corin Nemec, and the show is looking like it's going to become Farscape SG-1?

Not all of us are Farscape fans, sorry.

[identity profile] tafkarfanfic.livejournal.com 2004-12-21 11:18 am (UTC)(link)
Personally, I'll wait to bitch until I see something that actually sucks. (Like, oh, say, Gemini.) Reading some posts from the SG fandom lately is like sitting around at a goth club - "oh, god, this club sucks, this club sucks, the DJ is awful and my drink is watered down and I'm so damn miserable..." And my response is the same as it is when I'm out at a club: "If you think it sucks, then why are you here?" It just feels like everyone desperately WANTS to have something to complain about.

If Jonas came back, half of SG fandom would be bitching even LOUDER than they are now, considering how many "ogod they're showing S6 which shouldn't even EXIST and JONAS KILLED DANIEL OMG !!1eleventyone!!" things I see even now. If Amanda Tapping takes a few eps off to be with her kid and there's NO female replacement for her, people would bitch because "they're such chauvinists...it's all GUYS on the show."

*shrug* Whatever. People bitch when things change and they bitch when they DON'T change. I'm not trying to prevent you from complaining; I'm just not terribly interested in reading the predictions of doom 'n gloom.

[identity profile] qwirky.livejournal.com 2004-12-21 02:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Personally, I'll wait to bitch until I see something that actually sucks.
But you won't wait around to be optimistic? I think that people can be optimistic or pessimistic - it's based on the same information. And really, the only ones who are extremely happy are Farscape fans; that's fine, except that Stargate isn't Farscape (thank God either way, or boo hoo, or that's true, or who cares, or whatever).

And my response is the same as it is when I'm out at a club: "If you think it sucks, then why are you here?"
'Cause perhaps the goth club attendees have been long-time patrons of the club, have adored it greatly in the past, and have a sense of loyalty to it?

It just feels like everyone desperately WANTS to have something to complain about.
People have been complaining for ages, since Season 7 and Season 8.

If Jonas came back, half of SG fandom would be bitching even LOUDER than they are now,
Yes, the same group that wanted Daniel back and got him back.

and there's NO female replacement for her, people would bitch because "they're such chauvinists...it's all GUYS on the show."
But why Claudia Black, the other main lead of Farscape, who hadn't even aired on SG-1 yet when the news was announced?

I'm not trying to prevent you from complaining; I'm just not terribly interested in reading the predictions of doom 'n gloom.
*shrug* Then don't read it? I mean, if you're going to use the goth club argument, it's really the same. Frankly, I'm tired of people saying, "OMFG! BEN BROWDER! !!111!!" so...

[identity profile] canthlian.livejournal.com 2004-12-21 01:25 pm (UTC)(link)
And, yeah, the wank is killing me, too. As well as the pessimism. "Well, you KNOW it's going to be awful, because TPTB will just screw it up...blah blah blah..." How about being cheerful? How about being optimistic?

How about being jaded and disappointed by their past efforts, and basing future assumptions of suckiness over their previous screwups? >.>

[identity profile] liminalliz.livejournal.com 2004-12-21 05:51 am (UTC)(link)
Why I think Sam is not "STUPID" (just dumb) is that RC is jest so damn good at hitting her key emotions.

RC: I'm you. I know a lot about everything. And Fifth makes me kill Jack. And he rapes me.
Sam: OH MY GOD THAT COULD BE ME! :CLINGS:
RC: (...works like a charm!)

I think other fandoms are worse than SG1, but then, eeeh, the wank is at least interestinly inflamatory?

At least with the farscape alert (alert! alert! fandom crossoving in 10-9-8...) there's less SJ vs DJ wank...?

[identity profile] liminalliz.livejournal.com 2004-12-21 05:53 am (UTC)(link)
When I get back (cuz I can't do it this week, omfg), I want to do a full textual analysis of Gemini (cuz I'm that obsessed) and one of the underlying currents through the ENTIRE thing is sex (sexual aggression, sexual manipulation).

Squee. Yay lists of things to do! *fears*
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2004-12-21 02:32 pm (UTC)(link)
its. sigh.
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2004-12-21 02:32 pm (UTC)(link)
No, seriously, at the beginning, "Oh, look, she's me. We should trust her!" ... Sam hit her head in the shower, because OBVIOUSLY she isn't advocating trusting something that is part of a race set on DESTROYING ALL OTHER LIFE....

She wants to die? Fine. Zap her.

The replicators haven't been interested in the goa'uld before, so why would they suddenly take an interest now? Asgard tech is ABOVE the goa'uld, and the reps ALREADY HAVE Asgard tech.

This is like me wondering why the replicators want to conquer Earth. For it's tech. Yeah. Uh-huh.

[identity profile] liminalliz.livejournal.com 2004-12-21 02:37 pm (UTC)(link)
No, seriously, at the beginning, "Oh, look, she's me. We should trust her!" ...
I still think it's a pity/symphathy thing (omg, fifth made a mini! me! :wants to cuddle:)

Sam's too curious, as per what RC was expecting. "Maybe you underestimated your curiousity"

Re: replicators coming to our galaxy - purely personal. And the Asgard are a pain in the ass. We're easy.
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2004-12-21 04:25 pm (UTC)(link)
*agrees to disagree*

Although I still wanna make bad Reboot jokes.

[identity profile] liminalliz.livejournal.com 2004-12-21 04:34 pm (UTC)(link)
*CUDDLES YOU!!!*

[identity profile] livilla.livejournal.com 2004-12-21 06:14 am (UTC)(link)
The "casting spoilers discussion" made me cry. Or want to throw something.

*pout*
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2004-12-21 04:26 pm (UTC)(link)
*scritches* I have coffee?

[identity profile] livilla.livejournal.com 2004-12-22 10:59 pm (UTC)(link)
*cuddles* Yay! I have chocolate somewhere...

[identity profile] rosewildeirish.livejournal.com 2004-12-21 06:51 am (UTC)(link)
Meh, there's always wank. And I might've contributed towards it, in Qwirki's journal, but you know what? Even though I say I don't know whether to laugh with glee (work for Ben!) or cry many tears (it's not Farscape!), it's just a TV show. Should a friend stop by or something fall on my toe, know what? Tis forgotten.

But when nothing else is occupying my attention, this does. :)

And I try not to read the wank if it starts to bug. Easier said than done, I know.