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lyssie ([personal profile] lyssie) wrote2014-04-13 08:24 pm
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file under: crossovers and ridiculous ideas

(cut for s7 Doctor Who spoilers)

It just occurred to me to wonder what the Machine would consider an angel displacing someone in time. Would it have any concept for, say, Rory being zapped back in time at the beginning of Angels Take Manhattan?

Perhaps Shaw and Reese lurked just around the corner when Rory was lost. Would their watching have stopped the angels in their tracks?

Does the Machine watching stop the angels? The Machine isn't a person, and the angels are quantum-locked--and the Doctor says that it's through observation that they can't move.

The Machine observes.

More disquieting: to look into the eyes of an angel is to become an Angel. Also, no images, because they become angels, too.

An angel ghost in the Machine. Would it understand what had happened to it?

Has Finch encountered the angels before (out of all of them, he seems the most likely to understand)? Reese isn't omnipotent, and neither is Shaw. Carter would notice people missing, but only if related to a case she was working on. Zoe Morgan has probably heard rumors of them, and stays the hell away.

Why did the angels choose that time and place (19whatever). Why not settle down in the NYC of today?

Winter Quay isn't time-locked, it could happen in the here and now.

Would Root try to use the angels in her schemes?

Why is it this kind of idea that occurs to me, and not ideas for my rarewoman assignment. sigh.

[identity profile] ellestra.livejournal.com 2014-04-14 03:44 am (UTC)(link)
Rory doesn't have Social Security number. This is something that was always the weakest point of the series for me. If Machine only releases Social Security numbers how could the operatives find relevant threats all over the world (e.g. places where American Social Security has no relevance to people). The same goes for illegal immigrants and tourists in US. How can they help people who have no numbers?

Or if Machine produces numbers form other countries systems how do they know which system it is?

At least Root Machine actually talks to so she can tell her about cases like that.

I'm overthinking this, aren't I?
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2014-04-14 11:00 pm (UTC)(link)
There is never overthinking. And I hadn't thought about that (which raises a very valid point, Team Machine. tsk, tsk)

Hrm. Maybe there's some sort of.... idek.

[identity profile] ellestra.livejournal.com 2014-04-15 10:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Wikipedia has pretty nice listing of different national identification number (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_identification_number) systems around the world. And UK uses National Insurance number so maybe Rory can use that. Or maybe Machine has a Social Security number for him because of the post-Angels Rory who lived all his life in New York until he died apparently (still annoyed by that, sorry).
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2014-04-15 10:37 pm (UTC)(link)
omg

You realize that if the Machine turned up their SSNs from living in the past that a) they are dead (I mean Rory's, but Amy's, too). and b) they would peg them as people who are stealing identities

And that's a good omg.

<3

[identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_profiterole_/ 2014-04-14 03:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Guh! Why have you broken my brain?
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2014-04-14 11:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Because I'd already broken mine.