sometimes, fandom.

[lyssie]

"Nevertheless, what you enjoyed was still pretty lousy television and I guarantee that, unless you make a real study of it, you won't remember a damned thing about it a year from now."

WHY ARE PEOPLE LIKE THIS STILL WATCHING THE SHOW?

I do not fucking get it. You don't like it. Fine. MOVE THE FUCK ON, YOU PRETETENTIOUS FUCKER.

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[eve11]

Seems like the same exact sentiment can be applied to this person's whining.

(ETA: the "lousy" and "won't remember it a year from now" bits, not the "enjoy" bit.)

[lyssie.livejournal.com]

HAHAHAHAH. Yes. And it's not even really the sentiment, it's more the tone of lofty superiority that makes me want to throw cats and shout.

[thisbluespirit]

I saw that, too, aargh. (I think I unsubscribed from several DW comms on Dreamwidth to avoid seeing his/her posts because they were all like that in tone, but accidentally caught that one skipping around on friends of friends). We've all got our own opinion and we're free to watch things even if we don't like them, but setting yourself up as somehow the authority on what everyone should think and feel about a show? *rolls eyes*

Anyway, those of us enjoying stuff are having much more fun. (That's not really a sentence you can argue with too hard.)

And, really, I don't remember specific eps of any TV show properly unless I've watched them a few times. So I suppose it's a reasonable suggestion, after all. :lol:

IGNORE THEM. It's okay. Somebody's always Wrong On The Internet. And wrong with authority, too. (Two would never approve. ;-D)

[eve11]

which poster is it so I know to ignore them?

[thisbluespirit]

ed_rex, I think? I've never looked on their journal, but they post reviews linking back to it on some of the Dreamwidth comms and they're always pretty much the same in tone, so I stopped watching some of them, because I get all my DW stuff over on LJ and this person crossposts & I just don't like seeing all the negativity in a row. I've never had a conversation with them or anything, though. Could be perfectly charming and just writes really off-putting reviews. But don't think I care to find out.

[lyssie.livejournal.com]

HAHAHAH, Yes. That person. And normally, I totally ignore them. I think they finally just hit a button today, and I was like "NO, SEE, THIS IS WHY FANDOM..."

Also, I can totally get not appreciating or enjoying something--but when it gets to that point: stop watching. It isn't that difficult (and if you watch, whyyyy must you pretentiously state your opinions, whyyyy)

please ignore those times I have been remarkably pretentious over my opinions, ahem

but setting yourself up as somehow the authority on what everyone should think and feel about a show? <-- I really do think it was that bit which I found so utterly egregious that I COULD NOT.

[alryssa.livejournal.com]

Yeah, that "My opinion is CLEARLY the right one" attitude is just balls.

[karma-aster.livejournal.com]

I read the review, then I got to the "Dyke Detectives" bit and went, "...yeah, so we're done now."

[thisbluespirit]

Yes, I get what you mean, the patronising "authoratative" tone is incredibly off-putting. I'm glad it's not just me that was finding even the introductions a bit much to take.

[tinylegacies.livejournal.com]

does this happen to be about Hawaii 5-0?

another flister of mine was talking about some drama

[lyssie.livejournal.com]

hah. Sadly, no. If there are more people using this sort of rhetoric, deity (or non) help fandom. =D

[mfirefly10.livejournal.com]

I'm not sure exactly what you're talking about, though I know it's Who-related. I imagine it's someone making extremely negative reaction posts to new episodes? Or the show in general?


Whatever it's about, I understand watching something you might dislike a good chunk of the time. (I wouldn't say 'hate-watching' because people who do that seem to be specifically looking for every little misstep in a episode and I don't really get that.) There are one or two shows that piss me off more than they please me but I keep watching for one or two characters I really love.


It's fine to say you don't like something or to talk about what you don't like about it. The problem I have is when people who dislike a show (or a storyline/character/couple/etc) insult fans who do. That, imo, is when people should shut up. You don't like it, fine. But don't tell me that I'm wrong or stupid because I do. Don't assume you know anything about me or my viewing habits simply because I like something you don't (or dislike something you love.)


So while I don't mind people watching a show they dislike in the hopes that it might someday improve or because watching it is just a habit, I do mind when those people shit all over fans who still enjoy the show or rant about why those fans are wrong for doing so.

[lyssie.livejournal.com]

hahahah. It totally is. Anyway, if you hit up the Dwth oldbluebox comm (I think that's it), you will see said poster in all their glory.

I think my problem is that I have pretty much zero respect for people who absolutely hate something but continue to watch it and then broadcast their opinions all over the place. Don't like something? Fine. stop watching. THIS IS NOT HARD TO DO, I SWEAR. SG: Atlantis? Yeah, season four got bad, imo, so instead of continuing to watch and talking about how awful/stupid it was every week? I stopped watching.

Amazingly, the world didn't end.

[mfirefly10.livejournal.com]

Yeah, when people hate something to the extent where they get no enjoyment out of it and have nothing but negative things to say...I don't get that. Wouldn't their lives be less stressful if they simply tuned out or watched in a casual way that didn't involve interacting with fandom?

[angelfireeast.livejournal.com]

I hate that! I can get down about a show and complaint about it and wonder why I'm still watching because it doesn't make me happy anymore, BUT I don't rag on others (outside my friends) about it or try make people quit watching a show.

What series or fandom did this happen in out of curiosity.

[lyssie.livejournal.com]

Heh! Yes, I do that (on occasion), but I try not to be all Mouthpiece of Fandom and Always Right about it except for those times when I'm hanging out with like-minded people and we're not harshing anyone's buzz

[angelfireeast.livejournal.com]

Same here. I only go nuts like that with like minded friends. Usually I have a fake cut too.

[karma-aster.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I've gotten to that point where I see one of his posts about DW, roll my eyes, and move on. He's lovely to talk to about other things, so I just try to ignore the virulent Who-hatred, but I wonder why on Earth he keeps watching if he hates it so very much. It's not like Moffat's holding a gun to his head every week, is it?

I got to have a total hate-on for the X-Files near the end, and then I just went, "Wait...why am I watching a series about which I enjoy NOTHING anymore?"

So, I found other things to watch/do. Result? I enjoyed myself more, the series went on without me and limped to a close, and I found other things to love. People on my flist loved the last seasons and I go, "Eh, wasn't really my cup of tea" and CHANGED THE SUBJECT.

If you voluntarily watch a series you hate and you find yourself disgusted and not entertained, I'm thinking there's really only one person to blame there. And there's a simple solution. Hint...it doesn't involve demanding Moffat's head on a pike.

[lizardbeth-j.livejournal.com]

heh. I manage to stop watching things I actually LIKE, I can't imagine continuing to watch something I actually despise.