lyssie: (Rachel Bailey is amazing)
lyssie ([personal profile] lyssie) wrote2012-03-28 01:33 pm

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*punches F'lar in the face* (he spends the entire first novel being a douchenozzle. The second one starts promisingly, and then he makes a list of the female leaders and decides they'd be useless at the all-boys meeting he's going to--where all the boys act like two-year olds and make more of a hash than the women would have)

He's not very bright.
ancarett: (Romance Parody Cover BSG)

[personal profile] ancarett 2012-03-28 06:48 pm (UTC)(link)
I hate to say but her male leads, particularly F'lar, are such direct translations of 1960s romance novel tropes. . . .

*punches F'lar in memory of his stupidity, too*
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2012-03-29 07:47 pm (UTC)(link)
YES. And you can tell when a woman is evil because she actively likes sex/wants it.

The difficulty with F'lar is that he always thinks he's right, and the text agrees with him. So even when, say, talking to Lessa to explain his ideas would save them all time, he still doesn't, because she's just a woman. (to be fair, half the first novel would be out the window if he just talked to Lessa, so I suppose you couldn't really make people behave like intelligent adults, or there'd be no plot)
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2012-03-29 07:44 pm (UTC)(link)
This is very true. It doesn't help that the entire population of the planet only came from 6000 original colonists. ;)

[identity profile] stexgirl2000.livejournal.com 2012-03-28 08:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I liked F'nor much more than F'lar. I never got why Lessa didn't punch him.
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2012-03-29 07:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, she's a woman, and women are subservient (except when they want sex and then they're thoughtless, evil and twisted), and so she would never think of punching him.

Meanwhile, he can shake her, slap her, and treat her like a drudge, but it's AOK, as she looooves him. Ugh. (though they are sort of adorable, later in life, and Lessa isn't exactly an easy woman to get along with.)

[identity profile] crazedturkey.livejournal.com 2012-03-28 08:31 pm (UTC)(link)
At least Lessa rocked the casbah.
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2012-03-29 07:50 pm (UTC)(link)
SHE DID. Girlfriend spent TENYEARS getting revenge and ruining Ruatha (and killing people with her brain and skills). Then she took over Pern.

[identity profile] brookiki.livejournal.com 2012-03-29 06:53 am (UTC)(link)
This is pretty much why I always stop myself when I think about how I never finished the series and maybe I should give it a second try.
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2012-03-29 07:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Dragonsdawn was actually pretty decent. But I've a thing for colonies and desperate measures and dragons.

Moreta was all right, too.

It's just some of the earliest stuff (Dragonflight, Dragonquest, The White Dragon) which is a bit iffy--and White Dragon is somewhat better, though it still has its issues (like being entirely confusing if you've never read Dragondrums, but there's also stuff that happens in WD that ONLY MAKES SENSE if you've read the stuff she wrote LATER--like Dragonsdawn, or Renegades of Pern). OK, and the part where Holder women are supposed to be TOTALLY LIKE PURE, but it's a-ok for Jaxom to go around sexing any and everyone up (and never reflects on him, and doesn't even get into the part where she can't refuse his advances with him being her Lord and stuff, and ARGH, MCCAFFREY).

ahem. I may have a lot of feelings about this.

[identity profile] brookiki.livejournal.com 2012-03-30 06:04 am (UTC)(link)
I remember liking Moreta. I think I got up through Dragonsdawn and I don't think I read Dragondrums (I believe I mislaid my copy). I can't remember why I stopped reading it (though given the time, it was probably a lack of availability for the next book in the series) and I've forgotten enough of earlier books that if I restarted it, I would need to reread the older ones. I figure at some point, I'll just suck it up and speed through the earlier books to get to the good ones.

[identity profile] scalderwood.livejournal.com 2012-04-05 02:16 am (UTC)(link)
Damn. Fucking. Straight. F'Lar always pissed me off for that. Although if I remember right, he is finally tolerable in All The Weyrs of Pern.