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Being Human UK, s1-2, and the first episode of s3.
Thoughts contain spoilers and such.
I'm going to try to be reasonable about it, but I don't like George. I, quite irrationally, hate him. He's a Marty Stu who gets away with every horrible thing he wants and the show (and the people in it) chalk it up to "the monster" and he's constantly forgiven and it's all "Oh, poor, poor George."
He's done some especially horrific things to the women around him--but it's all ok! He wasn't himself. It's the monster that isn't really, y'know, him.
So I don't like him, and tend to fast-forward through his scenes as often as possible.
Unless Annie is in them, since I actually like Annie. I've tried to like Nina, but the show doesn't see her as more than George's appendage (or that bitch that wouldn't have sex with him). It's vaguely frustrating, but I wasn't really expecting a show about two angsty white dudes to actually give the women in their lives full characterization.
Surprisingly, I did like Ivan (maybe it's because he was Paul Rhys? idk), and I quite adored Daisy (and still do). I mean, despite Ivan being Yet Another White Dude, I liked him (ok, he made me laugh, and he wasn't lying about what he was)
I found Herrick over-blown, but occasionally amusing. I also thought he was right about Mitchell (and especially about Mitchell's treatment of Lauren).
And, oddly, I like Mitchell. I sort of find him hilarious and silly--especially with blood-drinkers anonymous, or whatever it was (I sort of didn't care enough to watch, I just thought it was hilarious to consider). And very very short-sighted (I think that's why I liked Ivan, because Ivan's brains were better for long-term planning and big-picture-viewing. Such a pity he's dead)
Of course, Mitchell's track record in getting women killed is sort of off-putting (three, at last count: Lauren, Josie, and one I'm forgetting; I think I also lay Lucy at his door, though that was more of a team effort. And I'm sure that doesn't count the box car people)
Then there's Mitchell's insistence that he needs a Good Woman to sort him out and keep him straight. *eyerolls*
Basically, I find Mitchell hilarious, but sort of boring at the same time. Except that he and Lucy were adorable, at one stage. And I like adorableness.
Speaking of Lucy, it's unfortunate for her that my reaction to Kemp was to fast-forward every scene he was in (almost--Annie scenes do not get fast-forwarded). I couldn't stand him and didn't care to (after all, they fridged his wife for his Angst).
But I did like Lucy, even if she was basically led round by the nose by Kemp (thanks, another example of "women can't think for themselves"). I liked her interactions with Mitchell (the scene where she almost staked him made me like her more--I might have liked her even more if she had staked him, but then she wouldn't have lived long, most likely), and I rather wish she and Annie could have spoken a few times. That would have been interesting.
I really like Daisy, too. I don't think it's just that the actress is attractive (I was only mildly interested in her recent Marple role)--then again, I did want to watch more of Outcasts for her. But I also just liked that Daisy didn't give a shit what anyone thought of her, and was bored of life. I also like the way she watched Mitchell, the way she drove him to become King, as it were. (one of the better moments, was how everyone is shouting and chanting during that one scene, but Daisy is very silent aside from kicking at a chair to provide the beat. And she's just watching Mitchell, almost like she can turn him into the King they need by sheer force of will)
And Daisy knowing it wasn't the cops who went after them--I would love to know more of the things she got up to, over the years. Sigh. (I really also liked that she wasn't going to kill the coroner, once she had proof it wasn't him or the cops--that, to her, he didn't matter one way or the other)
Nina, too, doesn't get enough narrative time. I really like her and find her reactions to things very understandable. I think she's a little judgmental, BUT, from where she's coming from (normal girl who has probably never done anything illegal/thought of killing anyone in her life who is suddenly stuck into this supernatural demony world), and am not surprised that her adjustment is still sort of happening.
I think that if she'd had some of the experiences George had, and had no support system, she'd be a different person?
(I don't think it would excuse her actions anymore than it does George, but I can see how it would change her)
The women in the show, sadly live in vacuums. They rarely interact, and it's a banner moment when two of them have a conversation that isn't about Mitchell and/or George (I think it happens, perhaps, once--in fifteen episodes). This is annoying, but entirely expected. Women often live in vacuums in real life, after all. Men are the ones who congregate and constantly talk to each other.
Did I mention that Annie is my favorite character? And that the show's inability to put her in danger without sexually assaulting is fucking annoying?
She is my favorite, and I possibly identify with her a little--what Owen (er, I think that's his name) said to her, about always watching life go by hit home a little. But it was also just fascinating to watch her shift and metamorphose from one thing to another to another--I am disappointed that people can't see her anymore.
I wish, though, that she would get a female mentor at some point. Both times she's encountered ghosts who 'helped' her, they were male (and one was Adam and he stole Jack Harkness's get-up from Torchwood). To be fair, she did meet another female ghost. And, of course, there was a baby involved, and, of course, Annie realized she wanted to be a mother, because that's what all women just want out of life. (sidenote: Mitchell holding a baby was mildly, um, disturbing and hot)
Annie breaking into the vampire's den was splendid, and I wish she'd do more things like that. Also, what's the point of 'seeing auras' if it's only mentioned once and never seen again? Or of exploding electric things if it happens in two episodes and then never again?
It is a bit frustrating to give Annie all this peripheral, cool stuff and then drop it like it never existed.
Annie talking Owen into insanity was probably my favorite, though. Because he'd used words to go after her before, and it was nice to see her taking the power back. (also, I have a thing for women being mildly evil like that--if one can consider it evil) It was also excellently staged, with Annie in the forefront and the dudes just sort of hanging out in the background.
Basically, I watch BH for ANNIE, and the possibility of Daisy being hot.
Oh, and one last thing that I do really like, was that vampirism and drinking blood and fucking after drinking blood isn't treated as "this is erotic and hot and sexay". It's brutal and ugly and gross. Like, Mitchell and Lauren and the blood smeared everywhere? eew. Mitchell and Daisy after the train? WHAT WAS CLOTTED IN HER HAIR, OH, GROSS. Even if it is only Karo syrup.
And yes, I'm going to watch the rest of season three. Just as soon as I have the ability to fast-forward through George and Mitchell Meets More Vampires scenes. (Idonotcare about vampire politics--even if I still think Herrick was right)
Oh, and also, I am hopeful that Robson Green will take his shirt off again.
I'm going to try to be reasonable about it, but I don't like George. I, quite irrationally, hate him. He's a Marty Stu who gets away with every horrible thing he wants and the show (and the people in it) chalk it up to "the monster" and he's constantly forgiven and it's all "Oh, poor, poor George."
He's done some especially horrific things to the women around him--but it's all ok! He wasn't himself. It's the monster that isn't really, y'know, him.
So I don't like him, and tend to fast-forward through his scenes as often as possible.
Unless Annie is in them, since I actually like Annie. I've tried to like Nina, but the show doesn't see her as more than George's appendage (or that bitch that wouldn't have sex with him). It's vaguely frustrating, but I wasn't really expecting a show about two angsty white dudes to actually give the women in their lives full characterization.
Surprisingly, I did like Ivan (maybe it's because he was Paul Rhys? idk), and I quite adored Daisy (and still do). I mean, despite Ivan being Yet Another White Dude, I liked him (ok, he made me laugh, and he wasn't lying about what he was)
I found Herrick over-blown, but occasionally amusing. I also thought he was right about Mitchell (and especially about Mitchell's treatment of Lauren).
And, oddly, I like Mitchell. I sort of find him hilarious and silly--especially with blood-drinkers anonymous, or whatever it was (I sort of didn't care enough to watch, I just thought it was hilarious to consider). And very very short-sighted (I think that's why I liked Ivan, because Ivan's brains were better for long-term planning and big-picture-viewing. Such a pity he's dead)
Of course, Mitchell's track record in getting women killed is sort of off-putting (three, at last count: Lauren, Josie, and one I'm forgetting; I think I also lay Lucy at his door, though that was more of a team effort. And I'm sure that doesn't count the box car people)
Then there's Mitchell's insistence that he needs a Good Woman to sort him out and keep him straight. *eyerolls*
Basically, I find Mitchell hilarious, but sort of boring at the same time. Except that he and Lucy were adorable, at one stage. And I like adorableness.
Speaking of Lucy, it's unfortunate for her that my reaction to Kemp was to fast-forward every scene he was in (almost--Annie scenes do not get fast-forwarded). I couldn't stand him and didn't care to (after all, they fridged his wife for his Angst).
But I did like Lucy, even if she was basically led round by the nose by Kemp (thanks, another example of "women can't think for themselves"). I liked her interactions with Mitchell (the scene where she almost staked him made me like her more--I might have liked her even more if she had staked him, but then she wouldn't have lived long, most likely), and I rather wish she and Annie could have spoken a few times. That would have been interesting.
I really like Daisy, too. I don't think it's just that the actress is attractive (I was only mildly interested in her recent Marple role)--then again, I did want to watch more of Outcasts for her. But I also just liked that Daisy didn't give a shit what anyone thought of her, and was bored of life. I also like the way she watched Mitchell, the way she drove him to become King, as it were. (one of the better moments, was how everyone is shouting and chanting during that one scene, but Daisy is very silent aside from kicking at a chair to provide the beat. And she's just watching Mitchell, almost like she can turn him into the King they need by sheer force of will)
And Daisy knowing it wasn't the cops who went after them--I would love to know more of the things she got up to, over the years. Sigh. (I really also liked that she wasn't going to kill the coroner, once she had proof it wasn't him or the cops--that, to her, he didn't matter one way or the other)
Nina, too, doesn't get enough narrative time. I really like her and find her reactions to things very understandable. I think she's a little judgmental, BUT, from where she's coming from (normal girl who has probably never done anything illegal/thought of killing anyone in her life who is suddenly stuck into this supernatural demony world), and am not surprised that her adjustment is still sort of happening.
I think that if she'd had some of the experiences George had, and had no support system, she'd be a different person?
(I don't think it would excuse her actions anymore than it does George, but I can see how it would change her)
The women in the show, sadly live in vacuums. They rarely interact, and it's a banner moment when two of them have a conversation that isn't about Mitchell and/or George (I think it happens, perhaps, once--in fifteen episodes). This is annoying, but entirely expected. Women often live in vacuums in real life, after all. Men are the ones who congregate and constantly talk to each other.
Did I mention that Annie is my favorite character? And that the show's inability to put her in danger without sexually assaulting is fucking annoying?
She is my favorite, and I possibly identify with her a little--what Owen (er, I think that's his name) said to her, about always watching life go by hit home a little. But it was also just fascinating to watch her shift and metamorphose from one thing to another to another--I am disappointed that people can't see her anymore.
I wish, though, that she would get a female mentor at some point. Both times she's encountered ghosts who 'helped' her, they were male (and one was Adam and he stole Jack Harkness's get-up from Torchwood). To be fair, she did meet another female ghost. And, of course, there was a baby involved, and, of course, Annie realized she wanted to be a mother, because that's what all women just want out of life. (sidenote: Mitchell holding a baby was mildly, um, disturbing and hot)
Annie breaking into the vampire's den was splendid, and I wish she'd do more things like that. Also, what's the point of 'seeing auras' if it's only mentioned once and never seen again? Or of exploding electric things if it happens in two episodes and then never again?
It is a bit frustrating to give Annie all this peripheral, cool stuff and then drop it like it never existed.
Annie talking Owen into insanity was probably my favorite, though. Because he'd used words to go after her before, and it was nice to see her taking the power back. (also, I have a thing for women being mildly evil like that--if one can consider it evil) It was also excellently staged, with Annie in the forefront and the dudes just sort of hanging out in the background.
Basically, I watch BH for ANNIE, and the possibility of Daisy being hot.
Oh, and one last thing that I do really like, was that vampirism and drinking blood and fucking after drinking blood isn't treated as "this is erotic and hot and sexay". It's brutal and ugly and gross. Like, Mitchell and Lauren and the blood smeared everywhere? eew. Mitchell and Daisy after the train? WHAT WAS CLOTTED IN HER HAIR, OH, GROSS. Even if it is only Karo syrup.
And yes, I'm going to watch the rest of season three. Just as soon as I have the ability to fast-forward through George and Mitchell Meets More Vampires scenes. (Idonotcare about vampire politics--even if I still think Herrick was right)
Oh, and also, I am hopeful that Robson Green will take his shirt off again.
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I'm sad that that apparently never improved.
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BUT YES. FU, GEORGE, IT IS NOT ALL ABOUT YOU.
The show is only bearable with fast-forward buttons.
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I liked Guy Flanagan's Mitchell much better. And there was a drollness about Andrea Riseborough's Annie that I miss.
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(I need to re-watch the original pilot. I know I liked it, I just don't remember much of it)
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Yes, it's done well and believable. But it's annoying. I want him having roles more like what he had in Dr Who.
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Mitchell's downward spiral made sense--someone he trusted had used him to destroy everyone he knew. Daisy may have put it in more prosaic terms, with an eye for an eye, I suppose. But it made emotional sense (childish though it was), that his response would be to lash back and kill people.
but then, of course, the show told us that Mitchell wasn't to blame, it was just his 'nature' and if only the woman hadn't betrayed him, blhahblahblah. etc.
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The rest... I see the points made, but basically all these people have OWNED MY SOUL for the last couple years, even (possibly especially) when they are driving me bugfuck insane.
There are people who don't like Annie, and go so far as to call her "annoying." I'm not sure I want to acknowledge them as part of my species.
I've adored Nina from the word go, personally, but accept that I'm in a minority there.
BUT. YES YES DAISY YES. I had a feeling she'd click for you. :-)
Also, there is a reason the vids I've made for the fandom have been for (1) Lauren, (2) Annie, and (3) the family.
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I can sort of understand how people wouldn't like Annie? But I wouldn't really want to know them, either.
And I don't dislike Nina, it's just that I wanted the show to give her more of her own narrative. It was a bit frustrating, trying to fill in the side-bits.
Daisy snuck up on me, I think. I was pre-disposed to not like her, because of the whole George thing (not that I blamed her, more that I thought she should have better taste). But she was so... intriguing and the way she just threw herself into things--and then the way she watched Mitchell like an observer watching the machinations of the court from a corner of the room, with a load of knitting in her lap.