lyssie: (River Song does not need your idiocy)
lyssie ([personal profile] lyssie) wrote2011-09-19 06:00 pm
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Scattered thoughts on Doctor Who season six

cutting for spoilers and all, also, speculation for the finale? (I'm not sure if I will have any, but)

I took all of season six as audio files to work today. I managed 9, 10 and 11 and looped back to listen to 1, 2, 4, 5, 6 and 7. And then started 8, but it was time to leave at that point.

During 'The Girl Who Waited', I had the sudden and strange thought of, well. (actually, it might've been during Night Terrors, idk, now)--ok. So. In some ways, the Doctor is George: he finds the person who needs him and molds himself to them until they don't need him anymore. And in all of that, he doesn't ever manage to 'grow up' as it were. Or rather, he does, but he doesn't enjoy it, so he hides in the persona of Peter Pan, claiming to never grow up.

(that's not really what a Tenzer is, of course--they find people who need something and become that. The Doctor generally maintains his own self)

There's a great throw-away line that I'm vaguely confused by, of the Doctor greeting them at the end of NT with "glad we're all back in the flesh" or something to that effect--great is probably the wrong word for it. Possibly it's nothing, just a throw-away, but in a season full of duplicates and cuckoos and mis-aligned time tracks, it is sort of interesting.

(incidentally, Amy and Rory's first kiss was apparently during the Macarena. Oh, kids.)

And then there's the bit, during God Complex, where I said, "The hotel is the Doctor's room", and I sort of wonder if that wasn't entirely true. The whole episode was about faith and how faith could be used and twisted (and fed to the Niiiiiiiiiiimon's cousin Billy)--and how the Doctor needs his companions to have faith in them, but dumps them when they don't, and he's increasingly doubting himself and his ability to keep them alive.

(also, I still have that sense of unreality about things--but I expect that's just me)

On to later, or earlier things.

River and Rory, daughter and father. It's so heart-breakingly clear, at times. And it's occurred to me just why River didn't go to Demon's Run. Because she knows the damage she could do, crossing her own timeline. And on top of that, if time can be re-written, she could go. She could change things with her fore-knowledge.

But then River Song would cease to exist, and like old!Amy, she's selfish (and no one's asked her to, yet)

What promise is River keeping, anyway? And to whom did she make it? Her mother? Father? The Doctor?

Eleven is running scared--look at him (or rather listen) in The Girl Who Waited, how desperately frightened he is of the idea of contracting the whatever plague. And then listen when he talks about time being re-written, how he says that having the fore-knowledge gives you the means to change the past. As though you're supposed to.

I sometimes think that TGWW was Eleven's test-run of the entire idea. He knows when he's going to die, and he knows he could change it. Now he's found out that he could do so.

The question is: how much is he willing to muck the timelines up in order not to die?

Then there's--well, names.

Amy names Melody after her bff, who it turns out, IS Melody Pond.

But also.

Also.

River, during AGMGTW, tells Amy who she is. She says she's Melody Pond (now River Song), and there's this connection--

because Amy is the one to show Melody who River Song is. The Doctor talks about her, but it's Amy who shows her River, who proves that Melody can become someone else.

And it's River who proves to Amy that River was once Melody, with the tangible evidence of the prayer leaf.

(and the Ponds get the Doctor's attention with giant letters, which Amy learned from River in Pandorica--but River learnt it as Melody from the Ponds... And 'spoilers' gets used by River to Ten, and Eleven to River--all this paradoxical beginnings are endings nonsense!)

I think I had another thought, but it is gone now. Mostly, I want it to be two weeks from now. sigh.
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[personal profile] havocthecat 2011-09-20 02:08 am (UTC)(link)
Do we not have a new one next week? ACK.
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2011-09-20 02:17 am (UTC)(link)
No, we do, but it's with the dude from "The Lodger" who really doesn't interest me (I'm v v tired of "goofy fat dude gets hot skinny gf/wife"). Also, I want more Ponds.
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[personal profile] havocthecat 2011-09-20 02:32 am (UTC)(link)
I was all excited at the thought of the dude from The Lodger meeting the Ponds and having Amy pick on him. Now I'm kind of bored by him, which I basically was during The Lodger.

PONDS! I've basically glommed onto Amy, if you hadn't noticed.
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[identity profile] lizbee.livejournal.com 2011-09-20 07:33 am (UTC)(link)
One thing I noticed this week was how many twisted domestic spaces we've had this year. There was the orphanage, the doll's house, the hotel. It's interesting.
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2011-09-21 03:20 am (UTC)(link)
That is a very interesting point, too. Hrm.

[identity profile] foenix.livejournal.com 2011-09-20 09:37 pm (UTC)(link)
That 'back in the flesh' line makes a bit more sense when you know there were original plans to air Night Terrors in the first half of the season, before we met the Gangers. A line that would be more of an "Ah ha, the Doctor knew!" kinda nod when watched in retrospect.

Now, it just has to do with Amy not being creepy and wooden anymore.
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2011-09-21 03:21 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, probably. It was just one of those vocal quirks that caught my attention.