random Amy Pond/newskool thought.

[lyssie]

I'm not even sure how to articulate it, but there're probably spoilers through the end of s5, here.

It's incredibly annoying to know the... feel of what I want to write, but not have the words.

One of the things I see people talk about is Amy, and how the episode Amy's Choice is all about Amy choosing between two men, but I-- I never got that. It felt more like Amy needing to discover that she didn't have to choose at all, that either and everything were possible.

Of course, the episode also passed along the "Amy will die without Rory" bit, whether that's from co-dependence, love, or something else doesn't matter, in the end. It's there. And it was Amy's way of destroying one fairy tale world.

The other thing (I said I was feeling inarticulate), is that... I feel like the whole season was a fairy tale designed to show that you can have your adventures and your knight, and then... you can keep going on and having adventures. That limiting yourself to countryside and children is, well, not what you have to do (I'm not trying to say countryside and children are wrong choices are bad, but they're not for everyone).

That life itself is a choice, and if you choose one way or the other, it's up to you to make the adventure.

Which is why Rory had to get an adventuring spirit, so that he could move on with Amy and be Hex to her Ace, and learn to love adventure, too.

*reads back over* bah. This is why I don't meta when my brain isn't working.

Comments

[lyssie.livejournal.com]

*nodnodnod* I'm so glad the season went the way it did, with Rory learning to have adventures and Amy learning that being a grown-up doesn't mean forgetting imagination. =D

[scarfman]

I don't know whether you said what you meant to, but you said something that needs saying.

[lyssie.livejournal.com]

Thank you =D

[wishfulaces.livejournal.com]

I said this back in somebody's journal--for all I know, it was yours!--when the last episode aired, that the wedding isn't the end, segue into "happy-ever-after," it's the beginning of their adventures, which may or may not be happy-ever-after.

I keep watching vids and squeeing again, by the by. GO TEAM!TARDIS.

[mtgat]

This. So much of S5 feels like a rejection of the RTD tropes. Rusty landed his female Companions' arcs by marrying them off. The Moff had Amy get married ... and now we're off for more excitement because that's not the end of the story.

[havocthecat]

I've really enjoyed the way, in other things he's done, marriage isn't the be-all and end-all for anyone (especially women).

[wishfulaces.livejournal.com]

Yes! I mean, we could stop marrying off all the companions and that would make me super-happy, but I am totally looking forward to next season and the trio's adventures, and Amy & Rory figuring out their relationship from this point forward and...oh, all of it.

[lyssie.livejournal.com]

I have no idea where you said it, but it's a brilliant comment. =D

[lyssie.livejournal.com]

It's been so fun and full of "imagination is everything, bb" and stuff, that when I try to meta, I get all flaily about how much I love love love how like oldskool it is while still being its own thing, really.

[rosewildeirish.livejournal.com]

One thing that I found very interesting that has pretty much been glossed over by fandom is that Amy's Choice really did show what a bastard the Doctor can be. I mean, he put them in that situation; he pitted them against each other, almost as though he avidly wanted to split them up.

...yeah, suddenly showing up at Rory's bachelor party to confess that Amy kissed him seems perfectly in character, omg.

*koffs*

[lyssie.livejournal.com]

Which is something he's always been, going right back to One, who hated the interlopers in his TARDIS and then abandoned his granddaughter in post-apocalyptic Earth 'cause he thought she was in love with someone.

So I'm good with seeing the bastardry brought out. =D

I need an Amy Pond icon.

[havocthecat]

This is what I miss by watching everything weeks after it airs, and not reading any of the ep discussion, isn't it? Which is probably a good thing; I might have hit things otherwise. I certainly would have sworn a lot in my journal.

Because the whole point, to me, was that Amy didn't want to choose, wouldn't choose, and that life without Rory and life without adventuring with the Doctor were both intolerable. So when she had a choice, she chose both. And if she couldn't have everything, then she'd have nothing, and that was just fine by her, because a life without Rory would only have been half-lived, even if she'd had the Doctor and the T.A.R.D.I.S. and adventuring. A life half-lived wasn't an option.

And then, later, at the end of the season, she had another choice: To remember the Doctor and go off with him again or to stay at home with Rory and her family. And she chose to remember the Doctor and go off with him, and Rory came too. So she could have it all. And now she has a whole lifetime of memories with her parents to add to that too.

I think the whole point of Amy's choices throughout the entire season was that she wanted it all. And what's so wrong with that? I just think it's awesome that she got it all.

(I'm not trying to say countryside and children are wrong choices are bad, but they're not for everyone).

It's hard to have adventures with kids, especially if you're lugging them around inside your body while running for your life. Far better to have them born already so you can pass them off between adults while running for your life. Just saying.

ETA: I really thought Amy's hair in Amy's Choice was adorable too. I just felt that bore noting as well.

Re: I need an Amy Pond icon.

[lyssie.livejournal.com]

Some of it, I've been linked to as "feminist readings of Amy Pond" type things, where they talk about how Amy's Choice is between the two men. And that's where I end up with my hands in the air going, "but, no, that, but--" and feeling entirely inarticulate, as you can take that impression away, but I don't think it's the intended one (watch tehMoff contradict me in an interview now)

So when she had a choice, she chose both. And if she couldn't have everything, then she'd have nothing, and that was just fine by her, because a life without Rory would only have been half-lived, even if she'd had the Doctor and the T.A.R.D.I.S. and adventuring. A life half-lived wasn't an option.

THIS, all of it.

It's hard to have adventures with kids, especially if you're lugging them around inside your body while running for your life. Far better to have them born already so you can pass them off between adults while running for your life. Just saying.

HAH. And not to cross-fandom it, but that's why I never had a problem with wacky Peacekeeper Baby Biology. =D