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Trolls in the dungeon: BSG meta.
This trolly secret got posted to f!s today, and I'm... a bit annoyed. Sure, it's a troll. But the underlying message: that it's ok to celebrate a female character's death because she dumped your whoobie is... pissing me off.
Link to said secret, full of BSG fail: http://i36.tinypic.com/icl5cz.jpg
So. What did Dee do to Billy?
To be honest, I'm not entirely sure. She was 'dating' him and made a date with Lee, so I guess she was sort of... two-timing? I'm not even sure how that works, with the world having ended and there being no places for a good date, though.
In Dee's mind, I don't know that she and Billy were ever serious--early in season two, she accuses Billy of staying with her because she's the first person to smile after the holocaust (or words to that effect). I've often wondered if Dee was suspecting herself of that, but putting the blame on Billy, because it was easier to push him away than admit she didn't know if she loved him.
So. Dee sort of has this back-and-forth tension with Lee (unfortunately for them, the writers did a really horrible job even putting it on-screen, so what's there is piece-meal and makes little sense), and she makes the decision to try a date with him.
And then Billy proposes, and Dee says no.
Let's be clear, here: Dee has no obligation to accept Billy. Him proposing is not formality because she's already shackled to him. If you think otherwise, why are you on the Internet without a man's permission, and why aren't you trying to get women classed as second-class citizens again?
So Dee turns Billy down, and goes off for her date with Lee without mentioning him to Billy. Lee, meanwhile, is treated to a slightly nervous version of events, with Dee trying to laugh it off in a "civilians are so dumb" way. (Lee, btw, apparently has no trouble dating a woman in a relationship, yet fandom never calls him out for this) Is this rude of Dee? Yeah. Is it stupid? Sure.
But it certainly isn't a reason to want her dead.
I mean, so far, we have:
woman in a relationship makes date with another man.
Kinda, well, sad and not nice, but not a stoning offense.
On the other hand, we have Lee.
During his relationship with Dee, he goes off and has sex with Kara while Kara is also in a relationship (and Kara was already thinking of settling down with Sam in some capacity, so you can't tell me they were just 'frak buddies'). And yet fandom never calls him out on this.
Let's be simple:
Lee cheats on Dee, Lee gets lauded for it and considered a fine, upstanding gentleman.
Dee makes a date with Lee, turns Billy down, and is considered a pariah and a horrible skank, slut, whore, bitch who should die.
And none of you find this the least sexist?
How about racist? Because Kara doesn't get called out on having sex with Lee, either. Kara only gets called out on shouting "Kara loves Lee Adama" and then wandering off and marrying another man in the morning.
As for the racism, I've been reading a lot of meta recently about Uhura from the new ST movie, and how it's racist to call her uppity for going after her job and her man. Sound familiar? Because the tone of the complaints about Dee wanting to date/marry Lee certainly is the same. Mostly, 'how dare that skanky black girl date my white male hero'?
Now, let me ask a question of all of you people who use this as your reason for not liking Dee. Since you are all such huge Billy fans that dumping him makes it ok to demonize a woman... Do you write Billy fic? Do you write fix-its where he doesn't die? Do you write him Mary Sues or other women (or men) sweeping him off his feet and making him better/happy/alive? Do you write meta and verse and song to his greatness? Do you lament every couple of weeks about how he's dead and Ron sucks, and you haven't watched since season two? What about icons? Surely you huge Billy fans MUST be flooding communities with Billy icons, right?
No? No? Really?
Huh. You'd think such massive Billy fans would do everything in their power to--
What's that? You write Kara/Lee fic? You write Roslin/Adama? Or Baltar? Or Caprica? And you've always said that you'd get around to that Billy K. epic, but you've just not had the time while writing porn for people not him and bashing Dee?
Oh.
Gee.
So.... None of you actually do anything for Billy. He's just an excuse so you can white-wash (hahah, see what I did there?) your sexism and racism.
That is awesome. Really.
Also, apparently, people think it's Dee's fault that Billy died. Dee, who said (paraphrasing), "Don't be an idiot, you're not trained as a soldier." Got him killed.
Well. Might as well blame Kara and Lee and Adama then, too.
Kara shot Lee, after all. And if he hadn't been down, I'm sure he would have picked up the gun instead. And Lee is trained for that sort of thing!
Lee was stupid enough to get shot.
Adama ordered the medics to tend to Lee, first. Maybe if they'd gotten to Billy when Dee did, they could have saved him. So i guess it's their fault Billy's dead, too.
OH WAIT. A terrorist shot him.
It is not Dee's or Lee's or Kara's or Adama's fault Billy died. It sucked ass, but it wasn't anyone's fault except Sasha Abinell's and her terrorist activities.
Seriously. You people are racist, sexist assholes. Maybe you should go pretend to be heroes.
Link to said secret, full of BSG fail: http://i36.tinypic.com/icl5cz.jpg
So. What did Dee do to Billy?
To be honest, I'm not entirely sure. She was 'dating' him and made a date with Lee, so I guess she was sort of... two-timing? I'm not even sure how that works, with the world having ended and there being no places for a good date, though.
In Dee's mind, I don't know that she and Billy were ever serious--early in season two, she accuses Billy of staying with her because she's the first person to smile after the holocaust (or words to that effect). I've often wondered if Dee was suspecting herself of that, but putting the blame on Billy, because it was easier to push him away than admit she didn't know if she loved him.
So. Dee sort of has this back-and-forth tension with Lee (unfortunately for them, the writers did a really horrible job even putting it on-screen, so what's there is piece-meal and makes little sense), and she makes the decision to try a date with him.
And then Billy proposes, and Dee says no.
Let's be clear, here: Dee has no obligation to accept Billy. Him proposing is not formality because she's already shackled to him. If you think otherwise, why are you on the Internet without a man's permission, and why aren't you trying to get women classed as second-class citizens again?
So Dee turns Billy down, and goes off for her date with Lee without mentioning him to Billy. Lee, meanwhile, is treated to a slightly nervous version of events, with Dee trying to laugh it off in a "civilians are so dumb" way. (Lee, btw, apparently has no trouble dating a woman in a relationship, yet fandom never calls him out for this) Is this rude of Dee? Yeah. Is it stupid? Sure.
But it certainly isn't a reason to want her dead.
I mean, so far, we have:
woman in a relationship makes date with another man.
Kinda, well, sad and not nice, but not a stoning offense.
On the other hand, we have Lee.
During his relationship with Dee, he goes off and has sex with Kara while Kara is also in a relationship (and Kara was already thinking of settling down with Sam in some capacity, so you can't tell me they were just 'frak buddies'). And yet fandom never calls him out on this.
Let's be simple:
Lee cheats on Dee, Lee gets lauded for it and considered a fine, upstanding gentleman.
Dee makes a date with Lee, turns Billy down, and is considered a pariah and a horrible skank, slut, whore, bitch who should die.
And none of you find this the least sexist?
How about racist? Because Kara doesn't get called out on having sex with Lee, either. Kara only gets called out on shouting "Kara loves Lee Adama" and then wandering off and marrying another man in the morning.
As for the racism, I've been reading a lot of meta recently about Uhura from the new ST movie, and how it's racist to call her uppity for going after her job and her man. Sound familiar? Because the tone of the complaints about Dee wanting to date/marry Lee certainly is the same. Mostly, 'how dare that skanky black girl date my white male hero'?
Now, let me ask a question of all of you people who use this as your reason for not liking Dee. Since you are all such huge Billy fans that dumping him makes it ok to demonize a woman... Do you write Billy fic? Do you write fix-its where he doesn't die? Do you write him Mary Sues or other women (or men) sweeping him off his feet and making him better/happy/alive? Do you write meta and verse and song to his greatness? Do you lament every couple of weeks about how he's dead and Ron sucks, and you haven't watched since season two? What about icons? Surely you huge Billy fans MUST be flooding communities with Billy icons, right?
No? No? Really?
Huh. You'd think such massive Billy fans would do everything in their power to--
What's that? You write Kara/Lee fic? You write Roslin/Adama? Or Baltar? Or Caprica? And you've always said that you'd get around to that Billy K. epic, but you've just not had the time while writing porn for people not him and bashing Dee?
Oh.
Gee.
So.... None of you actually do anything for Billy. He's just an excuse so you can white-wash (hahah, see what I did there?) your sexism and racism.
That is awesome. Really.
Also, apparently, people think it's Dee's fault that Billy died. Dee, who said (paraphrasing), "Don't be an idiot, you're not trained as a soldier." Got him killed.
Well. Might as well blame Kara and Lee and Adama then, too.
Kara shot Lee, after all. And if he hadn't been down, I'm sure he would have picked up the gun instead. And Lee is trained for that sort of thing!
Lee was stupid enough to get shot.
Adama ordered the medics to tend to Lee, first. Maybe if they'd gotten to Billy when Dee did, they could have saved him. So i guess it's their fault Billy's dead, too.
OH WAIT. A terrorist shot him.
It is not Dee's or Lee's or Kara's or Adama's fault Billy died. It sucked ass, but it wasn't anyone's fault except Sasha Abinell's and her terrorist activities.
Seriously. You people are racist, sexist assholes. Maybe you should go pretend to be heroes.
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