things! (and then I need breakfast)

[lyssie]

1. Peter Angehlides' Pack Animals is one of the better Torchwood novels. (what? I like things like naked invisible Ianto). It was very team-y and ridiculous, but at the same time serious. Also. Tosh was awesome.

2. Unpopular fandom opinion time: I'm beginning to not be interested in leading men. Eureka's Jack Carter? SG-1's Jack O'Neill? Torchwood's Jack Harkness? ...ok, maybe it's that men named Jack are boring me. *considers* I don't--ok, all I do know is Harkness bored me the last three episodes of series two, Carter keeps getting in the way of me enjoying the other people of Eureka (including his sister), and O'Neill kept popping up in season 3 Atlantis and making me fast forward...

3. I had to put Brisco County, JR on my netflix list. Mmm. Cracky western steampunk.

4. Warehouse 13. We remembered to watch an episode. Pete and Myka are still annoying enough to want them to not be on-screen. Like Claudia, like Artie, miss Amanda Waller. I did like that the end of the episode with the old agent was very sort of Torchwood (perhaps it was the lighting?) in feel.

5. Am a wee bit disturbed I could think up 27 different things to put on a BSG Genderfail Argument Bingo Card.

6. I still love this icon, and it is still so very true. (Black Air released a demon upon London on purpose, you know. Torchwood ain't got nothin')

Comments

[blinovitch.livejournal.com]

Pete's overacting in that episode with the old warehouse agent was hugely embarrassing. It made me wish I was watching the show on cable so I could flip away to another channel until the ludicrosity was over.

But generally, I kinda like the pair as they are. I just wouldn't want to work with either of them for an extended period of time.

[lyssie.livejournal.com]

Yeah, the Pete and Myka bits were making me laugh, and not in the good way. More in the, "you are trying too hard to make me believe you Love Each Other and Are a Team omg" way, though. There was a Looooot of eye-rolling on my part.

[emmiere.livejournal.com]

2. Hee. I very nearly did an unpopular opinion post about heroes and manpain and why John Crichton is now the only one who doesn't make me giggle inappropriately at his suffering (er, usually). It had vid evidence and everything, but just didn't connect. Oh well. But yeah, the leading guys get to pick up a lot of baggage as the leading guys and they're mostly not so interesting to me either. :/

5. *whimpers* Now I'm trying not to.

[lyssie.livejournal.com]

2. I like some leading men. I think a large part is that I like teams and ensembles a lot more than singular characters (which is possibly why I love Bowler, Dixie and Brisco when they're all working together).

5. I will post my list in a bit, and if there are more that you'd like to add, feel free. =D

[emmiere.livejournal.com]

I like teams and ensembles a lot more than singular characters

This. And some leading men are great, just usually middle of the bunch for favorite characters in a show to me.

*is afraid*

[lyssie.livejournal.com]

2. Sheppard, Crichton, Jeff Sinclair and (to an extent) Sheridan are fine with me. Just... Not the rest so much.

4. See, the problem is it's a bit like someone is standing on a table with a megaphone shouting, "SEE THEIR QUIRKS? SEE? SEE HOW THEY'RE QUIRKY? HE'S A SLOB. SHE'S A PERFECTIONIST. SEE? SEE? QUIRKS! QUIRKS! QUIRKS!" and all around them, people are sort of milling, looking embarrassed because the two actors are projecting this over-the-top stupidness.

[lyssie.livejournal.com]

2. Crichton is easy to explain: I saw season four first, and there's just something about a guy in leather pants who says, "Does my ass look big in these?" which makes me giggle inappropriately.

Shep and his hair are sort of adorable? And it would be hypocritical to dislike him when I ship him with Liz.

4. It's true, Artie and Claudia are... also table people. I think I'm predisposed to like Artie 'cause it's Saul Rubinek from Nero Wolfe (and if someone writes a Leverage W13 crossover, I will be pleased, especially if Artie and Nate are like, "...do I know you?")

Claudia is easy to explain. I've already seen dismissive comments about the new girl. ;]

[lyssie.livejournal.com]

It was the leather and the licking his gun and the way he was TOTALLY PWNED by the women in his life.

And I don't remember much of season four outside of being annoyed that Larrin, Teyla and Liz didn't get to sit around and mock people while making fabulous treaties and brokering deals.

The character I loathe on Atlantis is Rodney, honestly. He's the writers' geekboy self-insert (he gets the babe, after all) who's said some pretty awful things to people (like that bit in Tao of Rodney where he's explaining to Zelenka how he doesn't want to hear about his childhood in the gutters of eastern Europe. Classy.)

As for Claudia... PAVLOV, Merry. Pavlov. *blushes*

[mtgat]

2. I am rarely interested in leading men. I find that Carter is one of the few I don't want to drop-kick to get out of the way of the characters I'm watching for, but obviously ymmv.

[lyssie.livejournal.com]

It wasn't such an issue until I realized how much time is spent on "Carter's issues with Zoe" or "Carter's issues with Lexi", etc. And I want to not hate Jack Carter. I do! But when most of the time, even when an episode is about Henry or Allison or Stark or Zoe it's still All About Carter, that gets hard.

[scarfman]

2. I see your point about Carter, but I always like seeing O'Neill again.

3. Have you not seen that yet? It's good stuff. I don't remember that there are any women in it though, which suggests, if there are, they're not very ennabled.

4. This is the first time I've admitted out loud, but I've begun 'shipping Artie and Claudia. And Waller Frederic is back next week.

[lyssie.livejournal.com]

2. I'll admit some of my O'Neill issues are that season 8 killed a metric TON of my liking for the character.

3. Dude, I watched every episode that was broadcast AND THEN HAD A GRUDGE against VR5 for replacing it the next year. And forgetting Dixie Cousins? TSK. She was half the reason I watched it. YES I HAVE A TYPE.

4. I 'shipped them from five seconds of dialog at the end of the Sheppard's Hair episode. Mostly because I'm convinced Claudia is really something like 90, but she got de-aged and then sent to high school and is very mentally agile. Or maybe she's Romana

[scarfman]

3. I did only say "suggests". I probably wasn't as sensitive to this back then as I am now (however sensitive that is).

4. Yeah, but I don't 'ship. ...I think the director of the fiery spine device episode must have said to Allison Scagliotti, "Read your lines like Saul reads his."

[lyssie.livejournal.com]

3. True, sorry.

4. Also true. And heheheh.

[prozacpark.livejournal.com]

2. My brain totally skipped the 'not' in that sentence and went, "That's an unpopular opinion?" (Oh, how I would like to live in THAT world.) But yeah, pretty much.

5. You're now kind of obligated to make one, yes? ;)

[lyssie.livejournal.com]

2. HAHAH. Sigh. This is not completely true! I like Agent Cooper, for instance. And Crichton, Sinclair and Gibbs. And probably others.

5. obviously. I shall construct my list (and some of the corresponding "you did not just go there" responses) and post in a bit.

[havocthecat]

2. I am very, very rarely every interested in leading men. Sad, but true.

ETA: 5. I want to hear all 27 things you thought of. (Come on, you knew I would!)

[lyssie.livejournal.com]

2. I was worrying about whether I was broken, though I'm usually interested in leading women, so. hrm. (though I still think it's because I'm a big big fan of ensembles. I grew up on a multitude of Doctors and companions and TNG, after all)

5. Am typing the list for posting. =D

[mfirefly10.livejournal.com]

Ha. Now I don't feel so bad:)

One of the reasons I never got into SG-1 is because I just never liked Jack. I didn't dislike him but I think in order to love the show, you had to love Jack or Jack/Sam and I just didn't:)

And, as you already know, Jack is my least favorite Torchwood character. I still think he's okay but he's not the reason I watch the show. And I actually loved all 3 of the last few books (PA, Almost Perfect, and Skypoint).

[lyssie.livejournal.com]

Amusingly, palmetto has been watching early SG-1, and through her, I've rekindled some of the early Jack love. But. I loathe him in season 8.

The weird thing is, if you'd asked me, like, a year ago, I would have said Jack was totally my favorite. (I need to construct some more icons. hrm)

[waterdaughter.livejournal.com]

3. We mainlined that several months ago. It's so goofy and cute and I fell in love with it. Dixie being awesome didn't hurt either.

[lyssie.livejournal.com]

Dixie is the earliest girl!crush I can identify (I think), and is v v obviously the cause of me having a type. (sigh)

Not that I knew that's why I adored her back then.

[wishfulaces.livejournal.com]

I've decided that Harkness is best as a companion hanging with the Doctor&Co, not as a leader. I really prefer him being, I dunno, the comedic relief. He's not all OH MY ANGST when he's with Nine or Ten.

Eureka's been...weird this season, somehow. I'm not enjoying it as much as I did.

ETA: oh! Angehlides usually writes pretty well, if I remember right. But I haven't read any TW novels.

[lyssie.livejournal.com]

Put it this way: of the four audio dramas I've listened to, the last was the best, and Jack spends most of it in a coma.

And... I don't know if it's the angst or if it's the... flatness of him when he's trying to be the straight man (which could work, except that it also sort of doesn't)

And I like most of the TW novels, Skypoint and Something in the Water are still my favorites, though Pack Animals, Trace Memory and Slow Decay are very close behind. Border Princes is Adam in book form, but lamer (I couldn't be bothered to finish it).

[tafkarfanfic.livejournal.com]

Ha ha ha. Did my story have any influence on you putting Brisco on your list?

[lyssie.livejournal.com]

It reminded me! (and I'm still unfinished, sorry, it is AWESOME, but getting time to read it without interruptions has been hard the last two days. Also, my tabs all went away the other day)