more thoughts on Blood on the Scales...
Non-shippy. This is actually Cylon-related nonsense because, well, I <3 my Cylons. (and this has all been fluttering around my brains for a while)
1. So. One of the things about this episode that I sort of really hate is the way the Cylons are reduced to one-dimensional Evil until Roslin tells them Bill Adama won't like them.
If the Cylons are trying to prove they're trust-worthy and deserving of a place in the fleet, then running is the last option they should ever consider.
If they seriously want that seat on the quorum? Yeah. Running = automatic forfeit.
This, coupled with how the Eight on the raptor in the webisodes was killing people (and on New Caprica, too), says to me that, really, the writers are still using them as a crutch. They are Evil and there's no reforming, ever.
The other thing is that, all of the above? Is the stuff I expected Roslin to bitch-slap them with. If they want to be taken seriously, running at the first sign of trouble is bad.
Instead, Roslin spouted some "join the Bill Adama fan club" bullshit that should never have swayed them.
And Tory. Tory who used to, y'know, be a politician? Tory should have been the one to say, "You want our help? We want our spot on the quorum." That would have been the thinky and human and selfish Cylons I knew. Not these scared robots who wanted to go hide under the covers.
Hell. I know I'm a Cylon fan, but even from a logical, plot standpoint, having the Cylons run away accomplishes nothing except make Bill Adama look Awesome. And that's sort of annoying and stupid.
2. Roslin's "I'm coming for all of you" line. Seriously, people, I never thought anything could knock "We're going the wrong way!" out of the top spot for stupidest written line EVER. Is it that Angelli sucks at emphatic dialog, or something? Because both of those lines are utterly horrible and cause the women speaking them to sound like bimboes. On top of which, MAKING ME LAUGH. Because that's really what I should be doing when they're all serious business, you know.
3. Sparky gives all the ships jump coordinates.... and never orders them to jump. At least, not until Chief is conveniently breaking the engine, when it's pointless for him to do so.
He has an enemy ship in the midst of his fleet and one jump will get them away from it, AND away from the problem of Laura Roslin (not to mention Gaius, who is a known polarizing figure and agitator at the best of times), and.... and...
They stay right where they are, allowing her time to communicate with the rest of the fleet.
Because that's so smart.
1. So. One of the things about this episode that I sort of really hate is the way the Cylons are reduced to one-dimensional Evil until Roslin tells them Bill Adama won't like them.
If the Cylons are trying to prove they're trust-worthy and deserving of a place in the fleet, then running is the last option they should ever consider.
If they seriously want that seat on the quorum? Yeah. Running = automatic forfeit.
This, coupled with how the Eight on the raptor in the webisodes was killing people (and on New Caprica, too), says to me that, really, the writers are still using them as a crutch. They are Evil and there's no reforming, ever.
The other thing is that, all of the above? Is the stuff I expected Roslin to bitch-slap them with. If they want to be taken seriously, running at the first sign of trouble is bad.
Instead, Roslin spouted some "join the Bill Adama fan club" bullshit that should never have swayed them.
And Tory. Tory who used to, y'know, be a politician? Tory should have been the one to say, "You want our help? We want our spot on the quorum." That would have been the thinky and human and selfish Cylons I knew. Not these scared robots who wanted to go hide under the covers.
Hell. I know I'm a Cylon fan, but even from a logical, plot standpoint, having the Cylons run away accomplishes nothing except make Bill Adama look Awesome. And that's sort of annoying and stupid.
2. Roslin's "I'm coming for all of you" line. Seriously, people, I never thought anything could knock "We're going the wrong way!" out of the top spot for stupidest written line EVER. Is it that Angelli sucks at emphatic dialog, or something? Because both of those lines are utterly horrible and cause the women speaking them to sound like bimboes. On top of which, MAKING ME LAUGH. Because that's really what I should be doing when they're all serious business, you know.
3. Sparky gives all the ships jump coordinates.... and never orders them to jump. At least, not until Chief is conveniently breaking the engine, when it's pointless for him to do so.
He has an enemy ship in the midst of his fleet and one jump will get them away from it, AND away from the problem of Laura Roslin (not to mention Gaius, who is a known polarizing figure and agitator at the best of times), and.... and...
They stay right where they are, allowing her time to communicate with the rest of the fleet.
Because that's so smart.

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Hell, them being concerned about the FF and Hera would've been nice (someone else mentioned Caprica's baby, but that may not be common knowledge yet), too.
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I agree that "We're going the wrong way!" and "I'm coming for all of you!" were both quite over the top.
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I'd let her do whatever she wanted with the ship after that speech, too. Note for all of Tom Zarek's future incarnations - do not underestimate Laura Roslin.
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I'm actually surprised how many people are decrying the Cylons as uniformly evil for this. I thought it was a lame but completely understandable attitude. And I guess the part that stuck with me was that they DIDN'T leave.
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In all honesty, if we'd been able to SEE the conversation where they decided to run, I would have been happier. I'm just... I'm disappointed that we get all of this backstory for why Gaeta mutinied, but nothing to give the Cylons shades of grey.