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BSG: ....They need to change the name to Bored-to-sleep Galactica.

First, though. OMG. Caught an episode of Wolverine and the X-Men and cackled. DOMINO. <3 (YOU KNOW NATE PUT HER UP TO THAT SHIT)

Second. DUCK DODGERS. Martian Queen > Laura Roslin. Trufax.

So. They spent an entire episode talking down to the audience, telling us How Things Would Be... That's nice. You people have NINE episodes left to tell your story, and you give us an entire episode of pointless filler.

Everyone who says BSG is good at story-telling? SHUT THE FUCK UP. This episode proves that is a lie. And you're all fucking delusional.

1. Kara. Two seconds of her, and she's still bad-ass. And Sam, by association, though Kara didn't jump to Sparky's bait about her toaster husband. So. Vague hope there. (you know what would have been a good follow-up scene? Kara slamming into the bunk room and picking a fight with Sam. That would have been in some way interesting)

2. CAPRICA. Hey, look. They remembered she exists! Only because she's growing a baby, of course. And Saul is the babydaddy.

3. Speaking of babydaddies, how many times can Ron and co toot the horn of "Women Can Never Be Faithful"? Does it get boring for them to have to come up with new ways to trash their female characters? Poor Cally. Even being raped up the ass by an airlock wasn't good enough for her. Also, in case any of you missed it, Cally was going to kill Nicky.... (wait for it).... because he was half-Cylon. But then again, she knew he wasn't. Ron can't even remember his own canon! (he wrote this episode)

4. Sparky. Oh, Felix. You really have hated the toasters for a long time. Poor baby. And then there's the time Sam Anders shot you in the leg (hey, he's a toaster) so that Kara Thrace could start a treaty with the Cylons. That must stick in your fucking craw. Pity it makes you really boring and one-dimensional.

5. GAIUS. You started a riot! <3

6. Anyone notice how these Strong Female Characters the show is supposed to have did so much in this episode? Anyone? I know they shot themselves and gave up last week. So, this week, they... um.... they... I'm drawing a blank here. I'm pretty sure I just watched an episode that is actually more damaging to female characters than any given slasher flick. At least the women in those run around and scream a lot. And. Have lines.

7. You know, when Athena had lines, I started swearing. Women getting lines in BSG usually = dead at the end of the episode. I was worried for Ishay (who, btw, will kill Caprica or Caprica's baby [which is a boy, obvsly]), too.

8. There was way too much of Adama in this episode. OMG. SO FUCKING BORING. I was worried we'd actually have to watch him take a shit. (which would have at least been vaguely entertaining)

9. Helo had lines. That was nice. He also needs a haircut again. Sam only exists as Kara's boogeyman, though.

10. Roslin. She was pretty much the best thing about this episode, after Kara (sry, I have my preferences). The jogging was awesome, and I was sad that Kara wasn't with her setting the pace (I know, letting the women speak to each other might cause the universe to end).

11. Mom/Dad. Hey! Sex! Finally? Meh. I'm pretty sure they've been frakking all along, but the confirmation is nice.

Death watch (includes tally from last week):
Female: 1
Male: 0
Unknown: 3 (1 Cylon, 2 marines, I'd bet on the Cylon being an Eight)
eta: D'Anna: dead? Alive? AWOL.

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And the marines are 50% male/female, most likely, though given recent stats, I think more male marines have been sighted, so--

It could boil down to an Eight and two guys.

(Kara says she doesn't want to know, or he'll be on kitchen duty for a month.)

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not!Chief said it would have to be Sixes and Sharons who did the installations (because the Cylons are upgrading the fleet's engines, not that the fleet, apparently, wants that, wtf. LOGIC AND TACTICS, people). And that even some Twos would probably be needed.

So I was splitting the difference in it being a Six or an Eight and leaning towards Eights, well, because, I think they're a wee bit more mechanically-inclined. The Sixes are good archeologists, though.

He's a smart Two, then. ~~pls to write me some crack now, k?~~

But wait! Leoben could be on a five-day bender, getting drunk on ambrosia and still winning at cards. When the other players get angry at him and start demanding to know how he keeps winning the right hands and knowing when to fold on bad hands he starts muttering something about "all of this has happened before".

Then he makes a beeline for the lav, throws up, and starts the binge-cycle all over again.

Yes. *evil grin*

11. AHAHAH, Billy died with the emotional scars to prove it. PIRATES!

You know he and Dee still complain about having to set up play-dates. From the couch. Where they are currently lobbing spitballs at Tom Zarek.

Damn it, now I'm having weird ficbunnies about crossovers between BSG and Dead Like Me. Reaper: "Hey, aren't you... you used to date Billy, didn't you?" Dualla: "Um. There's a huge hole in the side of my head. How can I hear you talking still?"

Ooooooooh. Which could arguably mean that Gaeta is a Reaper... or... um...

OK, it has holes, I still think it's a neat bit of random crossover goodness. *grin*

1. SO BADASS. I love her so much. And that was TOTALLY our Starbuck! <3

Does it get boring for them to have to come up with new ways to trash their female characters?

Can't they at least be creative, seriously?! I mean, I guess we're meant to think she was just totally, 100% crazy ... but why would she be so terrified of the Cylons getting their hands on Nicky IF HE WASN'T CYLON?! No, it makes no sense.

Unless Cottle was lying to protect Nicky. He's smart and he knows the toaster massacre is coming. And he has lots of blackmail material on Hotdog... all those rashes? Yup, totally what happened!

4. Heh! Yeah, he did seem a little one-dimensional, which was disappointing. I guess you needed to watch the webisodes if you wanted internal struggle.

Anyone notice how these Strong Female Characters the show is supposed to have did so much in this episode? Anyone? I know they shot themselves and gave up last week.

*laughs and cries* Um, Kara will totally beat up a cripple? That was... pretty much the entire serving right there. :(

7. Well they need a male Cylon baby, since they just retconned one away for No Reason.
I definitely got that vibe from Ishay too. Explains why Cottle lied to her about Nicky. :iz now wearing two tinfoil hats at the same time*

8. HA! The toothbrushing!

9. Helo and Lee really need haircuts.

10. She KISSED him. And then they.... mmmm.

Do you have do-it-yourself instructions for those tinfoil hats?

No need to do it yourself! We hand them out at all the meetings. :) *hands you a shiny one*

*beams and adjusts angle of hat* That's better.

Unless Cottle was lying to protect Nicky. He's smart and he knows the toaster massacre is coming. And he has lots of blackmail material on Hotdog... all those rashes? Yup, totally what happened!

I <3 your brain.

9. LEE IS SO POOFY. I kept being distracted.

10. HAND-HOLDING. OUTSIDE OF THE BLANKETS. And then the lights out (ok, there were candles).

10. That really would have made the jogging even better. I would also like to see some women socializing, please and fucking thank you.

As always, I love your snark. Especially 4 and 6.

10. tsk. Only men are allowed to talk to each other. And women.

*bows, gleefully*

My favourite line of the episode was when Adama said (more or less): "The government's getting out of control!"

Yeah, you're totally not running a military dictatorship or anything there, dude.

*snicker* Seriously, if Adama would just come out and say, "I'm taking over, screw all of you pansies." I might gain some respect for him.

I am still disturbed by the notion of Saul Tigh's Magical Super Sperm of Cylon Awesomeness.

This episode was so full of 'meh' it toppled over into 'whatever.'

Well, except for Mom and Dad very obviously getting it ON. At the end. THE VERY END.

I have missed Helo. And his arms. His manly arms. But there was no ~~Ray~~Leoben, and so I has a sad. ;_;

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WHY, Ryss, WHY did they do an entire episode with NO POINT? NINE EPISODES LEFT and they WASTED AN ENTIRE ONE ON SETUP.

fgfgrevrfrgdf I DON'T KNOW. GAAAAAH.

*flails*

I was all, "wait, we can now haz some dramuhz with Tyllium shi - oh, no maybe not. DAMMIT."

I WANT MORE LEOBEN WITH HIS EXPERIMENTAL HAIR.

NO DRAMA AT ALL. SNOOZEFEST.

That would have been even more acceptable.

If you have not used that expression about his hair in a fic I demand it of you right now.

AHEM.

Once upon a time, a Two with experimental hair happened upon Sam Anders (one of those Final Fiver Cylons), and said, "Where is my girlfriend, Kara."

And Sam said, "None of your frakking business." Because he actually didn't know, since he and Kara weren't actually speaking to each other, what with the whole Cylon vs. Harbinger of Death thing. But he was trying for a good bluff.

The Two looked a little sad, then brightened, and asked, "So. Wanna go get the Hybrid high and listen to her babble?"

And Sam might have said yes, if only because he had nothing to do until the obviously planned mutiny occurred. But that could take almost a month, given how slow shit was going (unless you were on a Cylon ship where things happened but were never seen).

-the end.

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"Pssst, hey! Hey, Dom! I bet you can't turn the Brotherhood into an actual competent force!"

"Watch me!"

YES EXACTLY.

DOMINO?!?!?!?!?!?!? I DVRed that at my apartment! I get to watch it. DOMINO!!!!!

(I really miss her. Wish she'd get back in a comic book. With Nate. And they'd be all snarky and it would be so wonderful. And I could write fan fic about it. And we could talk about it and discuss worms and spleens and other stuff.... *sighs wistfully*)

Also, did you somehow find out where I live, fly cross country, sneak in my apartment and mess with my DVR? ;-)It was so freaky because for some reason it recorded a bunch of things I hadn't set it to record. I'm going through and there was Battlestar Galatica, SG-1, and Stargate Atlantis. I thought of you.

YES, DOMINO. It is like the crackiest thing EVER. And reasonably somewhat better than the 90's cartoon.

hahahah. No. Especially because BSG is such utter crap right now.

I'm very excited now. I saw a preview of it last week and it looked interesting.

I hate to hear BSG is has gone downhill. I'm not watching it now, but I had planned on watching it when I got some time since so many people were into it. It really sucks when a series gets crappy when it's so close to the end.

The episode needed more Starbuck and more Cylons. I want to see what's happening over at the basestar, damnit! (and I'm not ready to let go of D'Anna with the pissy excuse of "she's staying on the planet" - Lucy Lawless is too badass for that).

Yawn. I expected more.

Gaeta is boring.

Next week's ep looks to be all about the human civil war. I'm not sure that'll keep my interest 100%.

That would have required women being on-screen, though. Hard to do that, when it's obvious they've decided Men do Men Things and Women have babies and act like suicidal crazy people. (D'Anna should have been the one negotiating with the humans)

Human civil wars are never interesting. The Cylon civil war was interesting for what it said about them. Except that we didn't even get to see much of that. Sigh.

6. Anyone notice how these Strong Female Characters the show is supposed to have did so much in this episode? Anyone? I know they shot themselves and gave up last week. So, this week, they... um.... they... I'm drawing a blank here. I'm pretty sure I just watched an episode that is actually more damaging to female characters than any given slasher flick. At least the women in those run around and scream a lot. And. Have lines.

I IM'd

kyrdwyn with "Oh, for fuck's sake" when Roslin was lining up the pills for her pseuocide. YET ANOTHER WEAK FEMALE LEAVING THE MESS FOR THE MENS TO DEAL WITH??? WTF SHOW.

eta: D'Anna: dead? Alive? AWOL.

Smrt enough to have "scheduling conflicts" for the rest of the series, maybe? Heh.

No, no, she was having a classic Freak-out and Almost Die thing!

And I'd love Lucy Lawless to actually say (now the show's over) that she deliberately made herself unavailable because the writing was so lame.

Everyone who says BSG is good at story-telling? SHUT THE FUCK UP.

I'll say it used to be. Now last night's, I wasn't paying all the attention I could, but it seemed to just go on and go on awhile and then stop. When the credits rolled I hadn't been paying enough attention not to ask myself, "It's been an hour already?"

Cool that Mom & Dad are together at the end though.

IF THEY KILL ATHENA, I WILL--

Wait, actually, I already stopped watching. But fucking hell. No killing Athena!

I was sort of worried, there, for a moment. Y'know? And she's got a vagina, so I figure she's toast at some point.

She's got a vagina and she's played by a Korean woman. SO DOOMED. I've been waiting for it since the movie.

Are they finally airing "Wolverine and the X-men" here? Which network?

It's probably not a good sign that I'm possibly more excited about a show with WOLVERINE in the title than I am about the new BSG episode, which I'm not sure I care enough to watch. Especially now that I'm spoiled about the lack of Sam/Kara.

Watch the first scene and then find the Kara smacking Gaeta scene. Otherwise, you won't miss a fucking thing.

And Wolvie is on Nickelodeon, Fridays at 7 Central/8 Eastern

Ron Moore addresses the Cally issue here: http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/entertainment_tv/2009/01/battlestar-galactica-ron-moore-disquiet-follows-my-soul.html?cid=146126744#comments

He says she didn't cheat.

Yes. Except it's not in the episode, so it doesn't really count, does it.

It's not in the episode that she did cheat, either. But it's easy to assume it.

Are we supposed to understand that she just slept with Hot Dog and then Chief suddenly proposed so she married him?
So I suppose that in the Lee/Kara/Sam storyline there was no cheating either. "It was just one of those things."

Nooo. Obviously, she had a fling with him, like, three weeks before (Ron does actually say that), and she and Tyrol had sex later on, and... and...

Does Ron know how babies are made? I mean, gestational periods can be somewhat variable, but if that baby was three weeks early, Tyrol might've, y'know, noticed.

1. Kara was awesome - especially the leg comment :D

6&7. Athena was being badass - arresting Zarek and bringing back Tylium ship - offscreen.

There were some things I liked:
Cottle - because he's always love;
Not!Chief and his 'ours'-'yours' confusion;
Gaius looking good again;
Roslin and Adama post-sex, Kara, Helo and Athena and.. that's it :(

It certainly was a set up episode bu I liked that they addressed the problem humans have with alliance with cylons, mentioned again billions dead (50!) and on the other hand cylon request of full citizenship. That whole conversation was the best part of the episode.

Yes, but the operative word there? Offscreen? That is exactly what I'm angry about. WE SAW ADAMA BRUSHING HIS FRAKKING TEETH. How was THAT at all relevant to showing us what was happening?

I would have liked that conference scene more if there had been a single woman in attendance. How hard would it have been for them to have Kara there? Or Sharon? Or half a dozen other possible women (Racetrack, a Six, an Eight, Roslin, .... I'm running out of women, he keeps killing them off) D'Anna. D'Anna SHOULD be the one in charge of the Cylons. Instead, like Dee, she killed herself.

I meant 'offscreen' to be bitter. I hoped to at least see her kicking Zarek's butt.

I know but they are all dead or dying. I mean we had TWO women dead by suicide in last episode and D'Anna made me especially bitter because she was last one of her kind and the leader of her people and all she got was the lame 'I stay on dead planet because dying of starvation is so much better then Cavil'.

Ahahah. I'm sorry, my sarcasm and bitter detectors aren't working today. I was craving the arresting Zarek scene! Did he go peacefully? was he expecting it? Was he sort of smarmily SMUG? Argh.

I think I hate it most that there's a very obvious "when the shit hits the fan, the women can't do anything, so the big strong men come in and are logical and rational and save the day" bias. It's what angered me so much about the New Caprica resistance (Seelix was just a grunt, Barolay was only in the webisodes, and Roslin had no control over any of them, Tory only appears as coordinator to the evacuees, and Cally is just worried about her baby). Because that resistance should have been full of women as well as men.

I know Roslin is suiciding and there was only CIC personnel invited (I think - what exactly Helo does now?) but wouldn't Tory be a logical as Cylon representative? She feels like them much more then others Final Fours and she has experience in making deals - shouldn't she be the Lee counterpart from cylon side?

Tory. Damn. I knew I was forgetting someone (and I actually had that conversation with someone at one point). Tory is PERFECT. She has experience in politics, and she'd KNOW that bringing up the "We want a seat" thing would be hard.

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