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lyssie ([personal profile] lyssie) wrote2008-09-11 11:10 pm

Oh, the burning: bad Kara/Sam fic...

Triggery things, here, folks. So, cutting it. R for language, violence and sexual situations.

The following was posted on the Skiffy board in, of all places, the Trucco thread... Damn. Now I know why he don't come back.


Fic premise: Kara and Lee have another Conversation wherein Kara waffles and realizes that, since Lee has now left Dee, she doesn't really want Lee. She only wants him when she can't have him, etc. Kara tells him this, in pretty blunt language (though it's a bit soapy), and also manages to get in a dig at Dee. Since Dee will 'just take him back again'.

Silent implication there is that, of course, Dee is a doormat. Thanks, Author, it's not like 90% of fandom wasn't already saying it.

To continue.

Lee snaps, decides he's had enough and proceeds to rape Kara. Or try to, he rips her shirt, pins her to the floor, yanks her pants and undies out of the way and is just about to violate her (with Kara squeezing her eyes closed and praying that it'll be over quick), when suddenly, Large Hands yank Lee off of Kara, and Sam Anders tells Lee to keep his hands offa his Wifey.

1. This is the biggie, really. If wee!tiny!90 pounds soaking wet Cally Henderson can keep herself from getting raped by biting a man's ear off, so can Kara Thrace.

2. Leland Adama isn't going to rape a woman. He's an ass, emotionally messed up and not all-together bright. But a rapist? Not so much.

3. Shirts do not rip that easily. Unless Kara's been bleaching hers and has washed it five hundred times.

4. Kara Thrace is not going to go quietly, is not going to stay pinned, is not going to just give up and let it happen. She's going to fight and punch and scratch and shove her fingers in painful places of Lee's anatomy and get the fuck away.

5. Let's go back to the earlier conversation, which felt painful and a bit, well, contrived. It was simply there to piss Lee off and make him rape Kara for daring to leave him.

6. Dualla is not a fucking doormat.

7. Sam Anders does not need to save his wife. She can fucking well save her own damn ass, and probably do it without bruising Leland. Too badly.

8. Kara/Anders fic did not need the vengeful Lee is Evil trope, thank you very much. Just because Kara/Lee did it first doesn't mean we have to do it, too.

I'm sure I'll think of more things that annoy me, but that's the gist of it. Bottom line? Kara Thrace fights dirty and Leland Adama stands no chance at pinning her for long enough to rape her. There'd be restraints and knives and guns to her head involved, bitches.
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[personal profile] havocthecat 2008-09-12 04:31 am (UTC)(link)
Wow. Seriously. Fucked. Up. AND BAD. For crying out loud. People. Learn to write!
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2008-09-12 11:00 pm (UTC)(link)
I am so tempted to actually say that on the thread.

[identity profile] prozacpark.livejournal.com 2008-09-12 04:45 am (UTC)(link)
I was going to ask you for a link after reading the subject line, but I'm sure that the summary alone has scarred me for life.
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2008-09-12 11:01 pm (UTC)(link)
AHAHAH. No. Don't hurt your brains.
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2008-09-12 11:01 pm (UTC)(link)
SUBBIEST SUB EVER.

[identity profile] lesbiassparrow.livejournal.com 2008-09-12 05:08 am (UTC)(link)
What I don't get is if that's what you're looking for in a story, why pick BSG as your source material? There's got to be better options is you want the maiden who needs to be protected by her man from the evil rapist narrative.
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[identity profile] wiliqueen.livejournal.com 2008-09-12 03:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I seriously think some people have MORE of a need to do it in fandoms where it really, really, really doesn't fit. Y'know, to "fix" those pesky women who can take care of themselves and men who like them just fine that way thankyouverymuch. (Don't get me started on what some people feel the need to do to VICKI FRELLING NELSON. Just. Ugh.)
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2008-09-12 10:59 pm (UTC)(link)
[livejournal.com profile] wiliqueen, there are things I am not meant to know. Like that Vicki is considered as being possibly weak. OMG.
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[identity profile] wiliqueen.livejournal.com 2008-09-13 11:49 am (UTC)(link)
But I must SHARE THE PAIN. :: is sorry ::

[identity profile] lesbiassparrow.livejournal.com 2008-09-13 06:08 pm (UTC)(link)
How do you do that? Vicki Nelson is pathologically incapable of accepting help even in the form of a cup of tea, so she'd probably stab anyone who tried to save her...
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[identity profile] wiliqueen.livejournal.com 2008-09-13 06:48 pm (UTC)(link)
How do you do that?

You write really, really badly. *shudder*
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2008-09-12 10:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I've been constantly wondering about that. But it happens in SG-1, too, with Sam Carter and etc.

[identity profile] lesbiassparrow.livejournal.com 2008-09-13 06:07 pm (UTC)(link)
It really makes you wonder what drew them to the show in the first place.

[identity profile] greycoupon.livejournal.com 2008-09-12 05:14 am (UTC)(link)
You know, I think I will join Michael in the not going back there thing.

WHAT THE FUCK. (I half wondered if that was posted just to rile certain people up)
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2008-09-12 10:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Good plan. I don't know if that's truly why (dude, he is not net-savvy, and BUSY). But it might be.

I don't care if it was posted to rile people up, that was totally tasteless.

[identity profile] alryssa.livejournal.com 2008-09-12 07:16 am (UTC)(link)
dfsdwrsdefd SHOOT THIS MORON NOW.
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2008-09-12 12:17 pm (UTC)(link)
I can't kill people with my brain. I keep trying. :/

[identity profile] sabaceanbabe.livejournal.com 2008-09-12 11:39 am (UTC)(link)
So who wrote it? A snowflake sock?
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2008-09-12 12:17 pm (UTC)(link)
No idea. Darkdreamer? Something like that?

[identity profile] mrsdrjackson.livejournal.com 2008-09-12 01:15 pm (UTC)(link)
What. the. FUCK?
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2008-09-12 10:52 pm (UTC)(link)
MY WORDS EXACTLY.
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2008-09-15 03:43 am (UTC)(link)
I KNOW. Have some brain bleach.

[identity profile] noybusiness.livejournal.com 2008-09-14 07:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, I just hate stories like that. For example, in Dark Angel fandom. A Max/Alec fic does *not* need to turn Logan into some kind of control freak/evil mastermind in defiance of both canon and common sense in order to justify the pairing. And rape? That's just cheap.
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2008-09-15 03:45 am (UTC)(link)
Yes. And while I'd admit I've seen more than a few Sam Rapes Kara fics (at least, I assumed that's what they were). I've also seen (disturbingly) Lee rapes Kara to prove his manliness and then she loves him forever, yay, fics.

Either way, fandom needs to stop using rape as a short-cut to happyfuntimes.
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[identity profile] nicole-anell.livejournal.com 2008-09-15 03:31 am (UTC)(link)
AAAH WTF HOW DID I MISS THIS?

[livejournal.com profile] greycoupon actually tried to tell me. She was like "Did you see that fic on the Trucco thread?" But suddenly my computer crashed, because IT WAS TRYING TO PROTECT ME.

Oh, fandom. I hate you a lot sometimes.

P.S. I was debating whether to go with my Kara/Lee icon here or my Kara/Sam icon. I was torn! I went with Dualla. It was that or make myself a very special Gina Inviere BITCH YOU DID NOT icon.
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2008-09-15 03:49 am (UTC)(link)
Your computer was wise, my friend.

I think we need many Gina icons. Yessss. Dee is fine, though. *g*
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2008-09-17 03:56 am (UTC)(link)
I have bleach. And oreos. Oreos totally make things better.