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lyssie ([personal profile] lyssie) wrote2008-05-22 05:36 am

I would like to go back to sleep, please

Unfortunately, my brain is full of feminist theory and the latest Supernatural wank. As in, the last two hours have been me dreaming about stuff I was reading on Fandom Wank and elsewhere, and just getting progressively more irritated.

It's weird, because I don't think FW used to be so very full of theory when it came to sexism--this is not a bad thing, but the shift intrigues me.

Which is perhaps why I was dreaming about it.

Waking up, cranky and unable to continue sleeping, though, reminded me of an observation about commercials for 'In Plain Sight', that new USA show about some woman named Mary.

Two months ago, the commercials were full of wacky, weird, silly stuff. She ran around with a gun, her family was weird, her partner was weird, but tolerant, and she was a sassy, amusing, independent chick.

About a month ago, I stopped seeing those commercials and started seeing completely different ones. These are full of emotional drama, heartfelt conversations, and the lead being a nurturing, caring individual. There's no mention of her wackiness or independence.

So, I gotta wonder: were test audiences unthrilled with the original?

I mean, I liked the original commercials. I thought it looked a little cheesy, but then, it was a show about a blonde with a gun. I like women with guns. Hell, I used to occasionally watch Huntress, that show about a mother-daughter bounty hunter team. And that show was highly cheesy (I also watched VIP, which was full of women with guns, blowing things up and kicking ass, even if it was also full of pointless T&A).

[identity profile] justmyb0nes.livejournal.com 2008-05-22 12:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Productor are stupid. They did everything for money. Independent women are their last worries. They just want audience and don't want to chock people. It sucks anyway. Will they realize one day that independent and strong women exist?

You dream about Supernatural?

[identity profile] vickyocean.livejournal.com 2008-05-22 01:13 pm (UTC)(link)
I wondered about the In Plain Sight thing too. I was anticipating the series with the commercials about her wacky family. It looked fun. Then I saw the new commercials and it took me a while to figure out it was the same show. I'm hoping it'll be more like the original commercials. USA usually does pretty well with the goofy action shows.

[identity profile] wishfulaces.livejournal.com 2008-05-22 01:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I noticed that shift too, which...yeah. Based on the commercials alone, I would watch the first series, not the second (I think I'll still try it out, mostly because that first set of commercials also had Paul Ben-Victor, which...hey, Paul Ben-Victor. Awesome actor).

[identity profile] kali921.livejournal.com 2008-05-22 01:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm surprised that FW decided to pay attention to the SPN wank for wanking purposes, since after JewGate2007 happened FW was suddenly all "Oh, NOES, racism and sexism aren't funny, don't wank that here!" after a bunch of FW members got called out for their bigotry.

So sexism is funny again?

Aah, FW.

[identity profile] lizardbeth-j.livejournal.com 2008-05-22 05:59 pm (UTC)(link)
ah, USA wants to be SRS BZNEZ now, y'know. I think they're trying to position it against those other high profile actress shows ("Saving Grace" and "Damages") on other channels. Wacky and campy doesn't get attention like SERIOUS DRAMA...
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2008-05-22 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't know if it's them or if it's society as a whole. There's been a definite backslide in terms of female characters being given good roles.

No, I dream about feminist theory in regards to the misogyny in Supernatural.
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2008-05-22 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)
HAHAH. this is what I get for clicking on the wrong comment to answer--

I suspect the show will be a combination of both, actually, but that the marketing people are confusing themselves. And us.
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2008-05-22 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I... actually kinda like the new commercials, but I'm sucker for cheesy voice-overs.
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2008-05-22 11:08 pm (UTC)(link)
No, it isn't. Most of it is people saying "I thought we weren't wanking this bullshit" and "I hate misogyny" with a couple threads of recipes.

As it's sexism, there's no boobie train.

And some dude came to school them about how 'slutty' isn't as insulting as 'slut'.
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2008-05-22 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
AHA. See, this makes sense! Because those two DO have this same sort of Edgy Drama feel in their commercials.

Tsk. Wacky girls with guns are way more interesting.

[identity profile] wishfulaces.livejournal.com 2008-05-22 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Ahh, see, I like some cheesy voice-overs, but I almost always like quirky characters. :)

[identity profile] frolicndetour.livejournal.com 2008-05-23 02:55 am (UTC)(link)
I've been reading too much Fandom Wank too. It's starting to depress me, and I've never seen an episode of the show. Plus someone linked this video called "Women's Work" and oof. BSG may be killing off all the secondary women, but at least they don't die with their legs open?
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2008-05-23 03:24 am (UTC)(link)
Heheheheh.

Ron still needs to kill some men before it stops being annoying.

[identity profile] frolicndetour.livejournal.com 2008-05-23 03:28 am (UTC)(link)
Ron still needs to kill some men before it stops being annoying.

*nods* Down with Team Cavil!

[identity profile] justmyb0nes.livejournal.com 2008-05-23 04:15 am (UTC)(link)
Abolutly. You're right.

Oh yeah. Each time a female character comes in, it's a demon or something and they kill her. pffft