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Blast from the past: Telkena....
I'm poking through the unfinished fic folder (hey, ![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
karma_aster, I just came across notes for "101 Things a Girl Can Do..."--can the Attached chapters be far behind?), and I came across, at the bottom of a file filled with bits and pieces, Telkena's reply to me telling her, "You're not writing Sam and Jack. Please. You're doing OK porn, go submit it to some porn fiction website, and leave their characters alone." (I'm pretty sure this was after the "he can rape her because he loves her" debacle. Or right before it.)
eta: Argh. My original note:
Dear Telkena,
I've been considering writing you for some time. The difficulty I have in writing you is that I'm trying to be non-confrontational, and non-inflammatory. And I get partway in, and I fail miserably.
Please. I don't know why you believe that Sam and Jack are the people in your stories, but they're not. They're blatantly out of character to the point that even your less controversial smut pieces feel like I'm reading erotica off some random online porn site.
As to your latest fic: why? I thought it couldn't be that bad, I did. I clicked. I read, maybe, one paragraph. And ran away whimpering.
This is not Sam. This is not Jack.
The sick and twisted games you play with them in no way resemble the actual characters. I really, truly, have been at a loss for words for weeks regarding an earlier fic where Jack has sex with a 25-year-old and makes Sam watch, and then rapes Sam to prove that their love is pure. This is NOT reality.
Rape is NOT an expression of love.
I'm sorry, but these come across as your own fantasies that have absolutely nothing to do with the actual characters.
Please consider removing the Stargate references and posting them as original erotica to a porn site. Because they sure as hell don't belong here.
Lys, who does indeed believe that she doesn't have to read everything, but rather hopes to occasionally find decently-characterized fic.
Wow! Ok... well... I can't say that I haven't been expecting a mail like this... it was bound to happen at some point or another. So, it's ok. Really, I'm glad you did and i wish you would have done it earlier. I mean seriously, please, I don't want you to feel like you can't say what's on your mind. I want you to. So thanks.
Look, the thing is that I never considered myself a writer. I'm a med student, I'm good at that and no one can argue there. I write fic in my free time and I try to make it the best i can. Sometimes it comes out to be something decent other times it doesn't. That's that. I post what I do, who wants to read it does, who doesn't doesn't. There are enough SG writers out there to keep everyone happy. I'm just another name in the lot.
The thing is that for what I did write so far I did get some FB that said I'm doing ok, I got requests for certain ideas they wanted to see in fics, I did it for them. I got even more requests after that. So I guess some people out there find what i do... ok, i guess.
So... I'm sticking around with Sam and Jack fics and I'm starting a new one on Saturday, which is yet another request.
Lyss, I'm not a writer and my writing style won't change that soon, I'll try to change but it takes time. I KNOW, believe me I DO that not everyone likes my fics. I'm glad you had the guts to say out loud. Thank you for that.
What can I say? You know my writing style now, I am NOT going away... the only solution is... avoid my fics. Can't say I'm happy about it, but that's the answer. I'm not forcing anyone to read them or like them. You think I suck, avoid me. That's that. It'll save you the grief of dealing with bad fics. It's that simple. I'm happy you wrote this mail, I knew that I couldn't be getting great FB forever and I'm glad it finally happened. I was waiting for it.
So, bottom line, I'll try and change, but I will keep on writing Sam and Jack. Sorry to hear I lost you as a reader, but as I said, it's that simple a solution. Don't read my fics. Maybe sometime in the furture you'll sumble across something of mine again and actually fine it ok. Until then, this is what I do. Sorry, Lyss I'm not going anywhere.
Telkena
PS: again, don't feel like you can't write a mail because you don't want to sound confrontational. You have something to say, DO! I'm not the kind of girl that gets offended over someone's oppinion. I can't say this mail didn't hurt, but I am FAR from being pissed off or annoyed or mad or anything. I write, you don't like, I still do, you don't read. There. See? I'm ok. End of story, we both go about as we alwayd did and more so, you got it out of your system. No big deal! Ok? Talk to me in the future.
In short: Don't like Telkena's ooc and painfully bad fic? Don't read. *salutes*
karma_aster, I just came across notes for "101 Things a Girl Can Do..."--can the Attached chapters be far behind?), and I came across, at the bottom of a file filled with bits and pieces, Telkena's reply to me telling her, "You're not writing Sam and Jack. Please. You're doing OK porn, go submit it to some porn fiction website, and leave their characters alone." (I'm pretty sure this was after the "he can rape her because he loves her" debacle. Or right before it.)eta: Argh. My original note:
Dear Telkena,
I've been considering writing you for some time. The difficulty I have in writing you is that I'm trying to be non-confrontational, and non-inflammatory. And I get partway in, and I fail miserably.
Please. I don't know why you believe that Sam and Jack are the people in your stories, but they're not. They're blatantly out of character to the point that even your less controversial smut pieces feel like I'm reading erotica off some random online porn site.
As to your latest fic: why? I thought it couldn't be that bad, I did. I clicked. I read, maybe, one paragraph. And ran away whimpering.
This is not Sam. This is not Jack.
The sick and twisted games you play with them in no way resemble the actual characters. I really, truly, have been at a loss for words for weeks regarding an earlier fic where Jack has sex with a 25-year-old and makes Sam watch, and then rapes Sam to prove that their love is pure. This is NOT reality.
Rape is NOT an expression of love.
I'm sorry, but these come across as your own fantasies that have absolutely nothing to do with the actual characters.
Please consider removing the Stargate references and posting them as original erotica to a porn site. Because they sure as hell don't belong here.
Lys, who does indeed believe that she doesn't have to read everything, but rather hopes to occasionally find decently-characterized fic.
Wow! Ok... well... I can't say that I haven't been expecting a mail like this... it was bound to happen at some point or another. So, it's ok. Really, I'm glad you did and i wish you would have done it earlier. I mean seriously, please, I don't want you to feel like you can't say what's on your mind. I want you to. So thanks.
Look, the thing is that I never considered myself a writer. I'm a med student, I'm good at that and no one can argue there. I write fic in my free time and I try to make it the best i can. Sometimes it comes out to be something decent other times it doesn't. That's that. I post what I do, who wants to read it does, who doesn't doesn't. There are enough SG writers out there to keep everyone happy. I'm just another name in the lot.
The thing is that for what I did write so far I did get some FB that said I'm doing ok, I got requests for certain ideas they wanted to see in fics, I did it for them. I got even more requests after that. So I guess some people out there find what i do... ok, i guess.
So... I'm sticking around with Sam and Jack fics and I'm starting a new one on Saturday, which is yet another request.
Lyss, I'm not a writer and my writing style won't change that soon, I'll try to change but it takes time. I KNOW, believe me I DO that not everyone likes my fics. I'm glad you had the guts to say out loud. Thank you for that.
What can I say? You know my writing style now, I am NOT going away... the only solution is... avoid my fics. Can't say I'm happy about it, but that's the answer. I'm not forcing anyone to read them or like them. You think I suck, avoid me. That's that. It'll save you the grief of dealing with bad fics. It's that simple. I'm happy you wrote this mail, I knew that I couldn't be getting great FB forever and I'm glad it finally happened. I was waiting for it.
So, bottom line, I'll try and change, but I will keep on writing Sam and Jack. Sorry to hear I lost you as a reader, but as I said, it's that simple a solution. Don't read my fics. Maybe sometime in the furture you'll sumble across something of mine again and actually fine it ok. Until then, this is what I do. Sorry, Lyss I'm not going anywhere.
Telkena
PS: again, don't feel like you can't write a mail because you don't want to sound confrontational. You have something to say, DO! I'm not the kind of girl that gets offended over someone's oppinion. I can't say this mail didn't hurt, but I am FAR from being pissed off or annoyed or mad or anything. I write, you don't like, I still do, you don't read. There. See? I'm ok. End of story, we both go about as we alwayd did and more so, you got it out of your system. No big deal! Ok? Talk to me in the future.
In short: Don't like Telkena's ooc and painfully bad fic? Don't read. *salutes*
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I feel the urge to start singing "It's a hard knock life for a Sam/Jack ficcer"...
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The problem is, as Nos' once pointed out: some of her stuff has the grains of good ideas.... There's just no follow-through.
I was amused, one of the chatlogs I came across was me tackling
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I've said it before, and I'll say it again. WTF is wrong with fandom? And who are these people giving her ideas for her fic? I want to meet the person that had the Jack MPreg idea.
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