Batman, Tipping the Velvet, and the BSG promo pics....

[lyssie]

There is not enough Kara. Seriously, you'd think they'd get that the secret to my heart is lots of Kara. Lots. And can I please have one now? I'd appreciate it.

Ah, 2:30... And the drunks are coming down the street. Y'know, if I had a sniper rifle...


TtV.

I've been meaning to see this for ages, I meant to watch it when BBC America were playing it, then forgot (bad me). Luckily, woodface is fast falling to the lesbian side of the force (or is that the velvet side?), and she watched it recently, which reminded me.

The library has it on dvd.

The library, people.

Oh, well, I suppose it's not as bad as Madonna's sex book (anyone remember that controversy?)

On to Tipping...

It's visually gorgeous and wonderfully-acted, and has some rather decently hot sex scenes. I found Kitty Butler lovely (though occasionally distracting, since Keeley was in Murder in Mind once, and thus, I'd seen her before as a straight girl, which ruined it some), and infectious and Nan lovely (though incredibly naive and stalkerish).

Nan actually disturbs me, because she was so intense about her passions. Throwing all of herself into one person and never worrying about her own life...

One of the notable things about Tipping is the lack of men. It's strange to think that, but the men were much more peripheral and background than is normally seen in a Chick Flick type of thing. I'm not sure what I'd categorize Tipping as. Possibly drama. I was amused and disturbed by turns (the old lady lesbian bacchanalias were frakking squicky...).

I also enjoyed it immensely (though the directing was a bit choppy in bits--in the "omg! look, I'm making this spin!" way that Farscape began because Tony and Rowan were all on drugs and drunk and they're Aussies anyway and every other show since has tried to ape (with less success, because it always makes me think they're waving a flag with "Look! Aren't we Hip!" on it). I did fastforward towars the end, though, as some of the talky stuff got boring...

I'm probably going to pick up the book, at some point, just to read something that isn't fanfiction.

Sadly, there was no naked Kara Thrace.



Batman also had no Kara Thrace in it.

Though it did have Katie Holmes turning in an almost believable performance as a (supposedly) 30-something lawyer type with nerve and spunk and balls of steel. (seriously, if they were the same age, and seven years passed, and she was WORKING IN THE DA'S OFFICE when he left, she has to be, what 30? 32? now?)

Batman was like watching Highlander for the first chunk (although the flashbacks were less cheesy, and, sadly, there was no Sean Connery and Christopher Lambert) plus some silly ninja philosophy crap that made me feel bored until they blew shit up.

Then I was interested.

Batman didn't talk down to the viewer (mostly), it lagged and was a bit improbable at times (some of the timing towards the end was a bit rushed/too compacted), but the acting was first-rate, the characters were well-drawn, and the plot demanded that you keep up with it and use your brain.

So, yay, on that score.

Also? Paul from The Way We Live Now was in it, and that's just disturbing because his ex-wife in that went on to be Eowyn in LotR.

There were bits that made me roll my eyes.

I squeaked when I realized Gary Oldman was playing a good guy (that must have been such a departure for him).

hrm. Bed soon, I think.

Comments

[svilleficrecs.livejournal.com]

See, that's bizarre. Tipping the Velvet is next in my Netflix queue.

[karma-aster.livejournal.com]

Well, he did play the father in Lost in Space (wretched movie that it was) and he plays Sirus Black in Prisoner of Azkaban. (looks meek)

[suaine.livejournal.com]

I squeaked when I realized Gary Oldman was playing a good guy

I didn't believe it. For the longest time in that movie I thought: he can't be that guy, that's a good guy. What are they doing? They can't do that with that character, it's not an evil character.

I kept waiting for him to do something tragically stupid and end up bad like, say, Willem Dafoe in that spider person movie.

He didn't, but then Qui-Gon/Schindler turned evil and I was all: Oh! Sneaky! They put in Oldman so I wouldn't suspect the Jedi!

[abates.livejournal.com]

Can't go wrong with ninjas and explosions. Sadly, there were no pirates.

Gary Oldman - yay!

[woodface]

If anything has a fault these days, it's the lack of Kara in it. But lesbians is definitely a plus.

Batman? Again, I was bored. Esp the first part, yeah. But the movie just didn't convince me and acting wise I think only Morgan Freeman was able to charm me.

Mmmmmmmmmmm, Kara.

[liminalliz.livejournal.com]

Also? Paul from The Way We Live Now was in it, and that's just disturbing because his ex-wife in that went on to be Eowyn in LotR.

GOD I love you. <3333 Heeheehee!

[lyssie.livejournal.com]

Whoot! For it is, actually, good. Unless I'm nuts.

[lyssie.livejournal.com]

Hah! Yes. But then, they said his name, and I was like "there's no way they'd corrupt commissioner Gordon! What would Babs say?"

[lyssie.livejournal.com]

*pats* I seem to remember you saying that.

I still say it's because I don't find him attractive.... But there were explosions and crap. And real effects and not fucking computer generated shit.

[lyssie.livejournal.com]

*laughs* I was hoping someone else would be amused. ;)

It's true though, damnit!

Almost as much fun as fandoms eating SG

[vampirehunter85.livejournal.com]

I agree that Batman Begins was lacking in good female characters. It's not like there aren't any. *eyes Harley Quinn, Poison Ivy, Catwoman, and Ra' Al-Ghul's two fsking daughters who are as easily as badass as he is*

Maybe next movie, maybe next movie.


I squeaked when I realized Gary Oldman was playing a good guy (that must have been such a departure for him).

Do ya know, I've actually looked. Besides this, I think he's played only one non-villianous major role. And that was as Rosencrantz in Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead. So weird to see him playing a nice guy.

[morwen_peredhil]

Assuming that Rachel and Bruce Wayne are the same age, she'd be 30. In the birthday party scene, there's a big "30" decoration on the wall in the background of one shot. I thought she was the least believable assistant DA ever.

Oh, well. More room for the adventures of my latest Morwen Sue. I'm having fun with the tragic angstiness of it all, because it's not like I expect anything happily ever when it comes to Bruce Wayne.

[morwen_peredhil]

"Happily ever after," damn it!

[wishfulaces.livejournal.com]

*less* cheesy than Highlander? good gods, you astonish me. Then again, I've never really watched Highlander.

And yeah, it must've been so strange for Gary Oldman. That had to be the most normal character he's ever played. (Loved him with the Batmobile. Hee!)

[lavidaessueno.livejournal.com]

I found Tipping (the book) to be a bit heavy on social commentary. I thought Waters's other books were better.

[lyssie.livejournal.com]

Actually, my point was that it did have a kickass female role, and considering it's Batman they really didn't even have to put in a chick.

[lyssie.livejournal.com]

hah. She was... useful. But then, she didn't get the guy or turn into a gibbering idiot....

heh. For that sort of scary domesticness, I read kkglinka's Catwoman/Bats fic.

[lyssie.livejournal.com]

Well, Highlander kinda set the standard for cheesy flashbacks...

[lyssie.livejournal.com]

So I'm noticing... Eh. It can't be any worse (though I suspect it's less, er, delicately put in thas Carla Kelly's work) than Mercedes Lackey's Homosexual Agenda.

[vampirehunter85.livejournal.com]

Well, she did get points for not getting Bruce in the end. It was kind of an important point that Batman no get the girl, because he's Batman and not Bruce Wayne.

I think they could've done better though, as I was not particularly impressed. Maybe it's just because with Ra's Al-Ghul as the villian, I was hoping Talia would show up.

[lavidaessueno.livejournal.com]

Actually, I found the emphasis on socialism very offputting and tedious and thought it weakened the story significantly, especially toward the end. I realize the character (Florence? I forget her name) was supposed to be political, but that doesn't mean there had to be so much political theory in the book. It was almost as if the author lost track of what she was doing and couldn't decide if the book was about her main character - Nan - or the time in which she lived.

[lyssie.livejournal.com]

Ahhh! *nods* And, see, that's something the tv program did--it tightened it up and made it all about Nan.

And I can understand how the author could get distracted. She wanted to say one thing, and ended up not able to quite juggle it, I suspect.

[livilla.livejournal.com]

I kept having Star Wars flashbacks whenever Qui Gon Jinn Liam Neeson was on screen. He was like, half Jedi, half Sith and it was freaky. The movie was so pretty, though...